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mtrails
11-10-2004, 12:09 AM
This may be a tough one. This pic was rejected for bad cropping. I cropped it a little differently and re-submitted it. Again rejected. I took the shot with the composition in mind, to show the detail of the derailment, rather than just an leaned-over hopper. In the details, when submitting the photo, I explained the events contained in the photo. Everything seen in the photo is why the photo was taken in the first place. "This is the aftermath of a derailment due to a fault in the switch track. Notice one hopper is on the intended track, and the other was dragged across the non-intended track, pulling the rail section over about 2ft."

Before I was submitting photo's on RP, I browsed the site in interest. I thought someone might see this photo and realize the power and destruction behind a rather small derailment, instead of "hey look that car fell over".

I am interested in everyone's opinion. Thanks!

http://www.geocities.com/mmetalhhead/derail_sm.jpg
Click here for full image: http://www.geocities.com/mmetalhhead/derail.jpg

daveha
11-10-2004, 09:12 PM
Hi,

While I am new to this site, and thus may not yet fully understand it's style, my first reaction to this pic was "why am I seeing all this white above the car, and the clutter to the upper right?"

Understanding what you have stated as your message you wanted to convey through the pic, I'd crop it much tighter to the top and right. I'd also probably play with either burning/levels to darken some of the extraneous elements in the background, as they're distractions when as light as they are. Of course, your opinion may differ.

At the least, I'd crop to this, but if the numbers on the tipped railcar aren't essential, I might crop lower, given that the sky isn't helping you in this shot

http://www.davehau.com/daypic/derailt.jpg

Of course, you'd get a far better result working off your original file.

mtrails
11-10-2004, 10:52 PM
Thanks for the insight regarding cropping, that helps a lot. As far as the sky is concerned, it was quite dark as the sun had already set, and this was the best lit picture for it's content. I did try to edit it to gain some color or to darken the sky, but everything I tried, pixelated the photo, and of course darkened the subject matter. It would be nice if the photo screener would use the "Screener's Comments" box sometimes! Well, I'll give it one more try...

Thanks

mtrails
11-16-2004, 12:52 AM
I cropped as suggested, and it was accepted. I took the sky level down to the tip of the rail car, and cut out some of the background clutter on the right. It is now the third most popular of my photos!

aprobb
11-16-2004, 01:41 AM
okay got another. Remembering from another thread it might need more cropping, we'll see. What do ya think?

http://www.facingpoint.com/forums/uploads/post-47-1100126278.jpg