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chauncey87
11-18-2004, 02:24 AM
I've been here for a few months now and after getting dozens of shots rejected for "poor lighting/too dark" I eventually learned that if the underbody equipment (coupler, trucks, etc.) is dark or shadows cast upon it, the photo can be rejected for that reason. I've since hesitated to send photos that suffer from this problem. However, I don't really see that in this shot:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=67211

and in this shot, there isn't much of an underbody to see, as the trucks are set back under the car body:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=67216

I'm thinking maybe I should appeal these two but I suck at appeals as I have NFC what to write in an appeal...any advice?

mtrails
11-18-2004, 02:58 AM
I have had my share of "dark" photo's rejected, though the content was completely visible. I think in the first photo, in comparison to one of mine that was rejected, is the overall lighting for the time of day. The shot might have been accepted if the camera settings allowed a little more light into the photo, such as a slower shutter speed. You might be able to lighten it up with editing. In the second photo, the first thing I see is that it's not completely level, it's a little crooked. As far as lighting, this type of shot might have been better if used with a flash. I would suspect that would be the next reason for rejection if you did give light to that photo.

rpalmer
11-18-2004, 03:18 PM
I've been here for a few months now and after getting dozens of shots rejected for "poor lighting/too dark" I eventually learned that if the underbody equipment (coupler, trucks, etc.) is dark or shadows cast upon it, the photo can be rejected for that reason. I've since hesitated to send photos that suffer from this problem. However, I don't really see that in this shot:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=67211

I also see that the photo isn't level. Going back to the "Too Dark" thing - it appears that the photo was taken on a cloudy day, after sunset , or both. There isn't anything unique about a trolley stopping at this station - it probably happens dozens of times every single day. Instead of fighting to get this photo accepted, go back and re-take it on a bright sunny day with the sun at your back.

Chris Starnes
11-18-2004, 05:18 PM
I would take Rob's advice on that shot....very well said :)

chauncey87
11-19-2004, 08:56 PM
Thanks for the advice. If I get a chance I'll try it again tomorrow when I go back to Philly. Hopefully the weather is cooperative.

matnic17
11-19-2004, 10:05 PM
I made my first submission today and all four pictures were rejected for poor lighting (too dark).

I honestly don't think this one is too dark.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=67826

I guess the underbody is a little dark on this one.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=67824

And this one is supposed to be dark

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=67823

I would appreciate any help I could get from you experienced photographers. I may go out again tomorrow for another try.

Thank you
Matt Tucker

cmherndon
11-19-2004, 10:28 PM
All three are definitely dark, and there's no way around it. Usually when you shoot on a cloudy or rainy day, you'll end up with dark photos. I honestly don't think they can be saved without horribly overexposing them in photoshop.

Guilford350
11-20-2004, 12:40 AM
The horizon is way too unlevel in your second photo. Since it is leaning towards the right, I would at least try tilting it towards the left a couple degrees and see how it goes from there. And just a heads up, that locomotive is an SD9043MAC.

mtrails
11-20-2004, 12:55 AM
Can the staff of Railpictures be persuaded to include a "dark photo" category? The first one is dark, but visible in all aspects, and the third photo, I love it! Nice photo Matt.

matnic17
11-20-2004, 01:35 AM
After some work in photoshop I re-submitted.
This photo was rejected for "cloudy shot of common power". That's a rejection I can live with.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=67869

This photo, as Mike pointed out, was rejected for "Horizon unlevel"
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=67871

The third photo was accepted. My first one! (':)')
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=85219
Thanks for the compliment, "mtrails". I think I liked it better before I lightened it. Let me know what you think.

Thanks, Mike for the help on the locomotive ID. I posted a question about that subject and was led to this site
http://www.ole.net/~rcraig/MPR.html

mtrails
11-20-2004, 01:59 AM
I actually saved your rejected photo to my computer for a future desktop photo! I personally liked it better dark, I still like the shot no matter what. Congratulations on your acceptance!

Jeremy

slackaction
11-20-2004, 06:43 AM
Can the staff of Railpictures be persuaded to include a "dark photo" category? The first one is dark, but visible in all aspects, and the third photo, I love it! Nice photo Matt.

There already is a:dark photo category, its called the reject bin !! :twisted: :twisted: