New CSX Loco on ES44ACs

[chuckman]

CSX's new ES44AH/ES44ACs (or whatever this order is designated) are indeed bearing the "how tomorrow moves" boxcar logo...I personally don't care for the logo, but apparently someone did...

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?2,2595869

(and yes, I did mean the thread title to say "CSX loGO")

[JimThias]

New CSX Loco on ES44ACs



There's a CSX loco on an ES44AC? :shock:

[Freericks]

I am guessing he meant, new CSX logo on ES44AC, although there are ES44AC locos on CSX.

[chuckman]

I am guessing he meant, new CSX logo on ES44AC, although there are ES44AC locos on CSX.Yes, that is what I meant...sorry about that...

[troy12n]

I saw a pic, I am not a fan...

I saw a few YN2 AC6000's today and still think that is the best looking CSX thing out there with the yellow/blue CSX on the side.

[Freericks]

Be careful around, Thias, Chuckman... he is a member of the grammar police.

[WMHeilman]

I saw a pic, I am not a fan...

I saw a few YN2 AC6000's today and still think that is the best looking CSX thing out there with the yellow/blue CSX on the side.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. The "Big-Sixes" scheme with the yellow lightning lettering is sweet. It's too bad they couldn't have done it to more units.

[Joe the Photog]

CSX hasn't had a good paint scheme, in my opinion, since they stenciled ancestor motors with CSXT marks.

[jnohallman]

I don't know - as far as CSX schemes go, I think this is about the best they've done.
But maybe that's because it's the closest they've come to the classic B&O/C&O scheme.

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Jon

[nikos1]

Could someone post the picture of the new logo on here for members who arnt on train orders, just so we can appreciate the crappyness at full size.
I agree with Troy, the AC60 paint scheme was the best as far as CSX paint schemes go, normal YN2 isnt bad either. Most people hate the pre-YN2 paint jobs, but the first attempt honestly wasnt bad:
http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/photos/U30C/7241CSX-t.jpg

CSX-B was another of my favorites

http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/photos/SD50/8515CSX-b.jpg

As for YN3 being good because of it resembling the C&O B&O paint scheme, those paint schemes were just austerity money saving schemes, something that should have been left in the past. CSX has so many better paint schemes they could revive.

[PLEzero]

Could someone post the picture of the new logo on here for members who arnt on train orders, just so we can appreciate the crappyness at full size.

Not very difficult to imagine.

Just picture this boxcar logo: http://www.csx.com/

On this locomotive:

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[chuckman]

I saw a pic, I am not a fan...

I saw a few YN2 AC6000's today and still think that is the best looking CSX thing out there with the yellow/blue CSX on the side.It doesn't weather gracefully, but it is the best thing on the road!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmeans/6288353628/in/contacts/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/53728467@N08/6067583204/in/photostream

Although, on the right locomotive, YN3 can look halfway decent, and YN2 can look like trash...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/53728467@N08/5930800392/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/53728467@N08/5918274321/in/photostream/

[Joe the Photog]

Most people hate the pre-YN2 paint jobs, but the first attempt honestly wasnt bad:
http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/photos/U30C/7241CSX-t.jpg

CSX-B was another of my favorites

http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/photos/SD50/8515CSX-b.jpg

To be honest, I do like those paint schemes. Just yesterday I saw a six axle Dash 8 in the YN1 and hated I didn't know it was coming so I could set up for it. I liked the YN3 when it was first applied and honestly, anything looks good on a GP30 body or Dash 7. I was never a fan of the YN2 because of the slanted yellow coming off the nose. I think it looked pretty bad.

[Hatchetman]

Maybe they could get a real name. The paint scheme would naturally follow.

[JRMDC]

I was never a fan of the YN2 because of the slanted yellow coming off the nose. I think it looked pretty bad.

And so tastes differ, my favorite is the YN2 because of the slanted yellow! Plus it isn't nearly as dark a blue as the current DF scheme, which doesn't stand out from the side against the tree tunnels of my area. Next thing we know, they will go darker yet and it will be like shooting NS. :(

[troy12n]

First, I dont think the YN3 is "bad", it's at least an attempt at a paint job unlike NS's unimaginative all black paintjob that they "radically" spiced up by applying a white stripe above the cab (lol!)

I really wish they would have used the same blue and yellow colors as they used in the YN2, it would have made it a LOT better looking. Even if they just used the yellow, that mustard yellow they are using is about as ugly as that UP Yellow...

[JimThias]

Be careful around, Thias, Chuckman... he is a member of the grammar police.

Nobody enjoys my sense of humor around here. :cry:

[Freericks]

Nobody enjoys my sense of humor around here. :cry:

What sense of humor?

:D

[JimThias]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/jimthias/Smilies/rimshot.gif

[asis80]

Not very difficult to imagine.

Just picture this boxcar logo: http://www.csx.com/

On this locomotive:

[photoid=377388]

Ben Sutton likes this.

[Joe the Photog]

There are now pictures on Trainorders at this thread --

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?2,2600355

[JimThias]

Joe, can you link the actual picture URLs here or do they not work regardless for non-members?

[Joe the Photog]

Joe, can you link the actual picture URLs here or do they not work regardless for non-members?
I'm not a paying member, so I see what you see. Little pictures.

[chuckman]

At least 5 or six have gone west to Willard/Chicago from Erie now...

[Joe the Photog]

Well, returns are trickling in....

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I like it now that I have seen a good photograph of one. It's a neat little tweak of a rather bland paint scheme.

[troy12n]

Well, returns are trickling in....

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I like it now that I have seen a good photograph of one. It's a neat little tweak of a rather bland paint scheme.

I guess the new paint scheme is immune to cloudy/common reject too!

[nikos1]

If you own the site you can post whatever you want. (not a criticism, just a fact that if you pay for the hosting you should be able to post whatever you want)

Oh and yeah the new paint scheme sucks even more than I thought YN3 was capable of sucking, the nose looks ridiculous.

[troy12n]

If you own the site you can post whatever you want. (not a criticism, just a fact that if you pay for the hosting you should be able to post whatever you want)

Oh and yeah the new paint scheme sucks even more than I thought YN3 was capable of sucking, the nose looks ridiculous.

Sure, never said otherwise, just kind of surprised he posted that. It's atypical from most of the rest of his stuff.

[Freericks]

Cloudy/common is suspended on the first poster with new power and new paint schemes. Has always been so.

[troy12n]

The more I look at this, the less I am a fan. I dont think it looks half bad on the side, but the front really looks half ass.

It's like some of the 4700/4800 SD70MAC's CSX got that have a PUNY CSX on it.

[JimThias]

I guess the new paint scheme is immune to cloudy/common reject too!

And bad cropping. :shock: :lol:

< runs from Chris >

[Chase55671]

I like the scheme. It's different. I wish the foamers in this hobby wouldn't criticize every change and actually just appreciate the fact that there has been some change. :roll:

Chase

[JRMDC]

I wish the foamers in this hobby wouldn't criticize every change and actually just appreciate the fact that there has been some change. :roll:

Chase

C'mon Chase, knock it off with being judgmental and with generalizing. Just let people have their say; if you disagree, say so, but don't judge them.

J, who is neutral on the toy train but who still dislikes the DF scheme

[nikos1]

I hardly think the criticisms of the scheme are based on foamerishness (yeah I know thats not a real word) but have much aesthetic merit as well. The scheme is clearly based on the C&O/B&O paint scheme but it begs the question why to bring back such a utilitarian scheme put in place just for cost effectiveness when there are all these great predacessor schemes.
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To me YN2 seems like a modernized C&O/Pere Marquette passenger scheme, while YN3 seems like the cost saving freight scheme that followed. I guess CSX will get a good paint scheme when it gets a real name to go along with it...
I vote for SAL green, its the color for CSX since they want to convince everyone they are environmentally friendly. :roll:

[PLEzero]

I like the scheme. It's different. I wish the foamers in this hobby wouldn't criticize every change and actually just appreciate the fact that there has been some change. :roll:

Chase

You make change sound like progress. All I see is new power adding to the mismatched consist identify crisis already plaguing the system. Then again, I'm just a critical foamer that can't appreciate change... :roll:

[troy12n]

I guess to some extend, you have to admire that UP at least has keep the same basic COLOR scheme, even though they add these gimmicks like Flags, Wings, pink bows, etc

[JimThias]

In the end, it doesn't matter what railfans think of a paint scheme. The railroad will continue to run with the same success or failure whether it's got an ugly paint scheme or nice one. Besides, beauty is in the eye of the beholder anyway.

[Mgoldman]

I had a consultant work with CSX to revise the design ever so slightly. CSX stated they were very concerned as to what railfans think of their image and took us up on this proposal. They are accepting apps from other railfans.

http://classiclights.org/Mitch-Goldman-CSX-954-700x250.jpg

/Mitch
(Courtesy, one Bob Lyndall).

[JRMDC]

That AC-6000 style outlining of the letters does not work for me. :)

[WMHeilman]

That AC-6000 style outlining of the letters does not work for me. :)

Thank you for reminding me to suggest that CSX should bring back the version of YN2 applied to most of the AC60's.

[Joe the Photog]

Mitch is the only railfan I know that wants CSX to paint a dog on their locomotives and not go back to Chessie.

[jnohallman]

Mitch is the only railfan I know that wants CSX to paint a dog on their locomotives and not go back to Chessie.

And yet, strangely, there is no dog present in Mitch's "repaint". :shock: As for me, I'll take the NS paint scheme over CSX any day. People can whine all they want, but as a friend of mine who used to run locomotives for a living once said, there are only two proper colors to paint an engine - black, or "dark green locomotive enamel". For those confused about what those two colors mean, I offer the following examples ;):

Black: [photoid=378400]


Dark Green Locomotive Enamel: [photoid=376259]

Jon

[JRMDC]

I had a consultant work with CSX to revise the design ever so slightly. CSX stated they were very concerned as to what railfans think of their image and took us up on this proposal. They are accepting apps from other railfans.

/Mitch
(Courtesy, one Bob Lyndall).

Mitch, I saw a flaw in the work, see the attached (sorry, unable to present in displayed form).

[PLEzero]

A friend that works for NS saw CSXT 967 at Conway, Pa in primer paint. He said the new logo was under the windows on the cab. Interesting.

[chuckman]

They look cool in a strictly head-on view when they're clean! Nice ones Chris...

[WMHeilman]

I guess I'll throw my opinion in.. I like it. It's different, and yet they didn't completely change the scheme like CSX normally does. I'd like it more if they brought back the B&O Capitol Dome, or even made the "C" in "CSX" into the Chessie kitten "C," but we gotta live with what we have.

[JimThias]

That AC-6000 style outlining of the letters does not work for me. :)

:lol: Well played.

[troy12n]

This is the logo CSX should have come up with...

http://forums.railpictures.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=6931&stc=1&d=1320959397

[Joe the Photog]

Nah. But keep the "C" like it is there, Troy, followed by "hessie System" and on yellow and blue locomotives with a dash of orange.

[jnohallman]

Nah. But keep the "C" like it is there, Troy, followed by "hessie System" and on yellow and blue locomotives with a dash of orange.

I disagree. If you're going to play the evil empire and absorb a bunch of other railroads, at least be like UP and admit it. I'd settle for Chesapeake & Ohio.

Jon

[Mr. Pick]

Well, returns are trickling in....

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I like it now that I have seen a good photograph of one. It's a neat little tweak of a rather bland paint scheme.


950 was running in rural TN today. Caught it on my way home this afternoon between Bell Buckle and Fosterville. It had become overcast and I packed away the camera and quit taking pictures, but I couldn't resist a quick snapshot of the first new paint scheme I'd seen.

PS, what does that forward slash sign beside the track mean?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6225/6339215908_eac6329bf0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27313808@N00/6339215908/)
CSX 950 new logo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27313808@N00/6339215908/) by ridestherain (http://www.flickr.com/people/27313808@N00/), on Flickr

[bigbassloyd]

Looks like somebody attempted to make a career of beating that thing 3 feet deep into the ballast!

That's an advance warning sign that there's a red board ahead. The signs are used when someone is holding track time, and it requires the locomotive crews to get permission from the supervisor holding the authority before entering the work limits.

Can be funny to listen in on the scanner when the signs are accidentally left up.. :)

Loyd L.

[Mr. Pick]

Looks like somebody attempted to make a career of beating that thing 3 feet deep into the ballast!

That's an advance warning sign that there's a red board ahead. The signs are used when someone is holding track time, and it requires the locomotive crews to get permission from the supervisor holding the authority before entering the work limits.

Can be funny to listen in on the scanner when the signs are accidentally left up.. :)

Loyd L.

Ah, thanks. There was one train all morning on what it a normally fairly busy line. I later found the work crew working on the track, probably 5 miles or so from this sign, so that makes sense.

[troy12n]

CSX Rule 43
WARNING SIGN
Prepare to reduce speed or stop,
limits as directed

[Mr. Pick]

Thanks for the info. I know now that CSX Rule 43 and that little sign can put a real damper on a day of shooting trains...or trying to shoot trains. But, by afternoon it was overcast and conditions for pictures were poor anyway. Still a great day to be out in the countryside, and I got a lot of good scouting in for another day.

[JRMDC]

I don't know the rule, but I have been told that a yellow sign like that, but without the slash, indicates a slow order in a short section. The kind of sign I am talking about is yellow on one side and green on the other, and they are placed in pairs. So an approaching train first sees the yellow, and slows down, and then sees the green, and can speed up again, and a train in the other direction also sees the yellow first and then the green.

When I saw this used a few month ago, the signs were only maybe 20 yards apart, as the issue was a particular spot on the rail.

[troy12n]

http://members.cox.net/tsimsig/CSX%20Signal%20Rules.pdf

For the most part, it's similar on NS, except their approach boards are diamonds

http://members.cox.net/tsimsig/NS%20Signal%20Rules.pdf

[JRMDC]

Thanks, Troy.