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signmasters
03-09-2005, 07:40 PM
After reading posts for the last few weeks I think I'm ready to buy my camera. I have about $3000.00 to work with and am leaning towards the Canon - EOS Digital Rebel XT SLR 8-MP Camera w/Canon 18-55mm AF Lens and Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM for my lens, I do some wildlife (Birding) would like to use it for both. Should I get a Canon - 1.4x (L) Teleconverter EF, and what about a Tripod. I will truly appreciate any input.

dsktc
03-09-2005, 08:52 PM
Duane, I would forego the 18-55mm lens and buy the camera body only.

I then would acquire - for perhaps $500.00 more than you allotted - the Canon 17-40mm, the Canon 70-200mm f4, and the Canon 400mm f5.6, the latter for birding purposes. The 400mm f5.6 gives you the reach that
you need for birding and it is a prime lens.

Here are some examples of photos of waterfowl taken with
the 400mm f5.6

http://www.pbase.com/dsktc/middle_creek&page=5

Fred Miranda.com is a good place to learn about Canon lenses:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/index.php?cat=45

Dave

Ween
03-09-2005, 08:59 PM
Duane, I would forego the 18-55mm lens and buy the camera body only.

The Camera kit is only $100 more with the 18-55mm lens, so I figure a hundred bucks is a good price to pay for an everyday, beat-around, no-worry lens...

dsktc
03-09-2005, 09:07 PM
Unless it is a crappy lens.

Dave

The Camera kit is only $100 more with the 18-55mm lens, so I figure a hundred bucks is a good price to pay for an everyday, beat-around, no-worry lens...

Ween
03-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Unless it is a crappy lens.

Dave

I honestly don't know. The kit lens with the XT is supposedly 'new' and 'redesigned' from the one on the 300D...

signmasters
03-09-2005, 09:38 PM
I didn't know I could buy the camera body only, what about the 70-300mm f2.8L IS USM, I think the 17-40mm is good, but might wait till birthday (June) for the 400mm, your bird photo are great!

Duane, I would forego the 18-55mm lens and buy the camera body only.

I then would acquire - for perhaps $500.00 more than you allotted - the Canon 17-40mm, the Canon 70-200mm f4, and the Canon 400mm f5.6, the latter for birding purposes. The 400mm f5.6 gives you the reach that
you need for birding and it is a prime lens.

Here are some examples of photos of waterfowl taken with
the 400mm f5.6

http://www.pbase.com/dsktc/middle_creek&page=5

Fred Miranda.com is a good place to learn about Canon lenses:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/index.php?cat=45

Dave

dsktc
03-09-2005, 10:33 PM
Duane, do you mean the 70-200mm f2.8 L IS USM? If so, I have the
non-IS version. Both are first rate lenses. Glad you liked
the bird photos.

Here is another lens' review website:

http://www.geocities.com/jacques_weber_us/

Dave


I didn't know I could buy the camera body only, what about the 70-300mm f2.8L IS USM, I think the 17-40mm is good, but might wait till birthday (June) for the 400mm, your bird photo are great!

signmasters
03-09-2005, 10:54 PM
Thank you this all helps!:D

Duane, do you mean the 70-200mm f2.8 L IS USM? If so, I have the
non-IS version. Both are first rate lenses. Glad you liked
the bird photos.

Here is another lens' review website:

http://www.geocities.com/jacques_weber_us/

Dave

Bryan Jones
03-10-2005, 10:35 AM
After reading posts for the last few weeks I think I'm ready to buy my camera. I have about $3000.00 to work with and am leaning towards the Canon - EOS Digital Rebel XT SLR 8-MP Camera w/Canon 18-55mm AF Lens and Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM for my lens, I do some wildlife (Birding) would like to use it for both. Should I get a Canon - 1.4x (L) Teleconverter EF, and what about a Tripod. I will truly appreciate any input.

Thats a nice setup you are thinking of. However something else you may consider rather than the 70-200mm F2.8 IS lens would be the 100-400L F4.5-5.6 IS lens. I own this lens (as well as the 70-200 F2.8 IS) and its razor sharp and has a lot of reach on my Canon 10D and the Image Stabilization is the icing on the cake. It would really come in handy for your wildlife shots as well as your telephoto work with trains. This lens is just slightly less expensive than the 70-200 IS, around $1450-1500 new. On the shorter end you could pick up the 28-135 F3.5-5.6 IS lens for $400 (another fine lens, my primary lens) and that would take care of everything except for the super wide, which the 18-55mm kit lens would fill. These 2 lenses and the 20D kit would set you back about $2900, just throw in a couple 1GB flash cards and an extra battery and you will have a stellar setup to work with.

Bryan Jones

signmasters
03-10-2005, 01:26 PM
I will check out the 100-400L F4.5-5.6 IS lens. I want to get it right, I don't want to say ":cry: I wish I would have :cry:" I hope I'm picking the best camera. I'm sure I will go with the 28-135 F3.5-5.6 IS lens. Thank you Bryan for your input.;)

dsktc
03-11-2005, 12:03 AM
Bryan and Duane, from strictly a birding perspective, the 400mm f5.6 prime
is definitely preferable to the 100-400L zoom.

Dave

Thats a nice setup you are thinking of. However something else you may consider rather than the 70-200mm F2.8 IS lens would be the 100-400L F4.5-5.6 IS lens. I own this lens (as well as the 70-200 F2.8 IS) and its razor sharp and has a lot of reach on my Canon 10D and the Image Stabilization is the icing on the cake. It would really come in handy for your wildlife shots as well as your telephoto work with trains. This lens is just slightly less expensive than the 70-200 IS, around $1450-1500 new. On the shorter end you could pick up the 28-135 F3.5-5.6 IS lens for $400 (another fine lens, my primary lens) and that would take care of everything except for the super wide, which the 18-55mm kit lens would fill. These 2 lenses and the 20D kit would set you back about $2900, just throw in a couple 1GB flash cards and an extra battery and you will have a stellar setup to work with.

Bryan Jones

signmasters
03-11-2005, 12:23 AM
Dave, your bird photo are, oh so good (great) will I need both lens to get photo as good as yours and great train photos to?

dsktc
03-11-2005, 01:23 AM
Well, for railfanning you really only need two lenses in my opinion, a short Focal Length zoom, such as a 17-40, 18-55, or 24-70, and a medium Focal Length, such as the 70-200, f2.8 or f4.

For serious birding, you can't beat a super telephoto, so when I win the
PA Lottery, I'm going to buy the Canon 600mm f4 L IS.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=186153&is=USA

But in the meantime, I'll stick with my 400mm f5.6.

Dave



Dave, your bird photo are, oh so good (great) will I need both lens to get photo as good as yours and great train photos to?

signmasters
03-11-2005, 01:49 AM
Well if I win the Michigan lotto I'll pick up that lens for you, thank you again.:lol:

dayres101
05-06-2006, 11:22 PM
I ran across this website the other day and found some really helpful information. This guy also has some really good high quality rail photos. Hope it helps.
http://homepage.mac.com/allegheny/guide/rp/index.html.

If you have trouble connecting search for The Midwest Railfan

Joe the Photog
05-10-2006, 09:39 PM
f I had 4 thousand dollars to spend on a digital camera and accessories, I would get the Canon 30D which is coming out soon if it's not out already.


Joe

VirginiaSouthern
05-11-2006, 04:54 PM
I can wholeheartedly recommend the 28-235mm IS. I've had this lens for a few months now and I love it. Yes there are lenses that are better, but as a good general purpose lens, I think its outstanding.