View Full Version : The assimilation has begun (G&W repaints)

01-20-2013, 03:40 AM
This unfortunate former OHCR tunnel motor appears to be the first unit painted for one of the former RA properties.
Picture by James Trivett
http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/6ff1cdf841bffa733399738a83dde083.jpg (http://hostthenpost.org)

01-20-2013, 04:22 PM
For those of us who have no clue (probably just me), can you explain why it's unfortunate? There is much about railroad history that I'm unaware of.

Joe the Photog
01-20-2013, 07:40 PM
I've always liked shortlines because of the differenty paint schemes and types of engines. Now GWI, typically all eMD and all orange and yellow, is going to come along and change a good deal of that.

Although the Georgia Central is a welcome exception. So far.

01-20-2013, 09:46 PM
Yes, as Joe said the unfortunate is loss of variety. Class 1's have become unbearably boring and shortlines just got a whole lot more boring with the G&W-RA merger. Now on the mainlines you see nothing but CSX or NS from Jacksonville to New York, soon it will be nothing but G&W on the shortlines.
GC is the exception because probably none of the U23B's will ever see this paint before being sent to the scrapper on some sad day....

01-21-2013, 06:21 AM
For those of us who have no clue (probably just me), can you explain why it's unfortunate?

In foamer's terms...that orange paint scheme sucks. :grin:

02-05-2013, 01:40 PM
There also seem to be mobile paint crews visiting some properties, in addition to the big shops turning out repaints. A friend witnessed Chesapeake & Albemarle GP7U 2190 being painted in Elizabeth City, NC on February 3rd. He also reported it was being renumbered as 1702. I cannot firmly state this is final/confirmed info, so roster keepers may want to tentatively enter a note on that.

More interestingly, it seems the paint crew will leave after only painting the 2190. Ex FEC GP38-2 502 apparently will not be painted. These two units make up the active roster. GP38Ms CA 3841 and 3842 were sold to Bro-Tex Metals during the big selloff by RailAmerica, but are still in Elizabeth City. 3841 suffered wreck damage after striking an open drawbridge in Chesapeake, VA in 2008 and 3842 has unknown (to me) mechanical failures that caused it to be retired.

CA GP7U 2158 is out of service with a cracked block, future unknown. As power short as the combined G&W system is, it could be a candidate for rebuild at one of the system shops.

The mobile paint crew should be at the North Carolina & Virginia as of 2/5/13 where they were to paint 3 units.

Almost sounds like G&W is attempting to get a percentage of units painted from the start, rather than complete roster repaintings, as they could have done with just a few more days at the C&A.

02-05-2013, 10:01 PM
Of course, they always paint the home road units rather than the ragged looking patch jobs. Just like how they came in and painted the CAGY's 25th anniversary unit as soon as they bought them, that was just wrong.....

02-06-2013, 02:07 AM
Any RA scheme locos are the primary targets for repaints. G&W apparently wants that image in any form, be it present or past, GONE. They have even repainted one of the CIND GP50s, which was repainted into to the final RA red, white, and blue scheme only a few years ago.

I could rattle off about 100 units to paint before that one, but it shows you the mindset.

02-06-2013, 11:18 AM
Ok, I get it now. The blue and white loco in this pic is about to head to the paint booth. :(


02-06-2013, 12:43 PM
I have now seen photo proof, and the number I was initially given was incorrect. CA 2190 is now CA 1720, and the paint job is complete.

Edit: Didn't realize Casey had already posted the photo. Here it is for all to see:


02-06-2013, 04:29 PM
MMRR 2019 in the new paint scheme is en route to Michigan right now. This was first spotted on January 29.

02-06-2013, 04:41 PM
That one is ex Genesee & Wyoming 51, and was painted at Brookville, PA. It previously wore badly faded GWI orange.

Joe the Photog
02-06-2013, 07:42 PM
Any news on the South Carolina Central or Carolina Piedmont? The CPDR has two RA-painted units and at least one New England Central that I'm still hoping to shoot.

02-07-2013, 06:11 PM
Not that I've heard, Joe. The paint crew is Ahoskie, NC right now on the NCVA. They should wrap up there next week. Where next, who knows? SC Central would certainly be the next RailAmerica property in reach were they to head south.

I wouldn't waste any time. The stated goal I've seen is to have at least one G&W painted unit on all the former RA properties within 3 months, and the RA brand name gone by the end of this year. RA-painted locos of any sort are the top priority to repaint, no matter what the condition of the paint.

Joe the Photog
02-07-2013, 08:17 PM
I believe I am getting up to the Carolina Piemont thia weekend to shoot one of their big GE turbine trains. I'm hoping the lone CPDR GP10 still on property and/or the NEC unit will be used.

02-07-2013, 09:11 PM
I wasn't aware they were working weekends, Joe. Is that just a special occurrence for one of these turbine moves, or a regular thing?

You know, one thing that came to mind is this: on the NCVA, they are going to paint a GP40/slug combo and two GP38s. That's their standard road set. It makes me wonder if they are wanting to have a full "flashy" road set for a huge customer like NUCOR to see the G&W corporate colors on a daily basis.

That makes me wonder if the SC Central might be another property to see multiple repaints instead of a "one and done" like many other properties seem to be getting just to get a corporate image established on the property.

I guess we'll know soon enough. SC Central is certainly a spot where the roster could use any sort of an image. Of course, it used to back when I first started getting into shortlines. I believe this photo was taken on the second time I ever went out on a dedicated shortline trip:


02-08-2013, 12:50 AM
Funny, they are painting engines like no tomorrow but the RailAmerica website shows so signs of the G&W takeover other than a little note on the sidebar.

Joe the Photog
02-08-2013, 06:47 PM

I don't know if this is a new thing or if it's expected to last. John Jones who is in the Laurens area let us knmow on the Carolina Rails Facebook page that they were doing this tomorrow. He seems to know some folks there and I'm not aware he's ever shared wrong information.

It does seem that in the last few years, the turbines have come down the Columbia, Newberry & Laurens on CSX on Sundays, but I believe in the past, the CPDR took them to CSX on Friday.

John also said that the last ex-Illinois Central GP10 on property was scrapped just this week which means my hopes they would actually use it tomorrow are dashed.

Joe the Photog
02-11-2013, 02:14 PM
All total, I believe there were ten guys with cameras that chased this train at one point or another, though one or two seemed to be hit and run types, someone from the area who saw it coming and stopped to grab a quick shot.


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/joethephotog/8459037767/" title="Carolina Piedmont GE Turbine H&amp;W Train (4) by Joseph C. Hinson Photography, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8459037767_1a649a04e4.jpg" width="500" height="351" alt="Carolina Piedmont GE Turbine H&amp;W Train (4)"></a>

The sun was dead on the nose of the lead loco for about half the trip though. I missed a great spot shot by Anthony Davis and John D. Jones in Simsponville, but all in all it was a good time.

I won't lose any sleep if the G&W comes down to Laurens and paints these two though.

02-11-2013, 09:43 PM
Here's the first repaint coming to my neighborhood photographed by Robby Gragg in Barr Yard in Illinois.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8385/8463654598_a13f6cec5d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eje665/8463654598/)
Mid Michigan bound (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eje665/8463654598/) by Robby.Gragg (http://www.flickr.com/people/eje665/), on Flickr

02-17-2013, 08:02 PM
Another shot I got the a couple of days ago:


A quote from someone who knows someone...

Hearing thru the grapevine that the engine may look pretty but the mechanicals are rough and the floor is rotted through.


02-18-2013, 04:20 PM
Sounds like an "Imron rebuild" if that's the case...

02-28-2013, 01:10 AM
Paint crew is done at the NCVA, and left NCVA 3808 and slug 808 (former CORP 4000 and 4166) in orange. They have moved on to the South Carolina properties. Word is, they are to do one unit on each property now, then will come back to finish up the rosters after the first pass. Sounds like things are going to be very orange by year's end.

Joe the Photog
02-28-2013, 01:42 PM
Thanks, Mike! I'll be interested to see what gets the orange in South Carolina

Joe the Photog
03-07-2013, 02:03 AM
Rolan Watts shared a picture of a G&W paint job on the South Carolina Central on the Carolina Rails Facebook page. He says it's a GP38 and numbered 2032. That's not a number I am familiar with on the SCRF and I didn't think they had any GP38s. (except maybe the ex-FEC units lettered for the CFE).

John Jones also said he heard the New England Central unit on the Carolina Piedmont would get the GWI treatment there.

03-08-2013, 01:05 AM
I took a peak at Rolan's shot. That unit is almost assuredly ex FEC. The second generation air intake vents, no dynamics, and added r/c operation yellow lights on the cab roof are a dead giveaway.

G&W is renumbering many of the units they paint into a corporate-wide series loosely based on horsepower.

Joe the Photog
03-08-2013, 11:28 AM
Ther two FEC motors were 505 and 506. Looks like they left Florida in 2009 and got sent to the CFE and get new initials inside the hurrican logo. I'll try to find out which (or both) got painted this weekend.

Joe the Photog
03-28-2013, 11:48 PM
Looks like both of the ex-FEC motors were repainted.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/reggiemcdowell/8592205811/" title="South Carolina Central Railroad Bishopville Local by Reginald T. McDowell Sr., on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8092/8592205811_37a886371c.jpg" width="500" height="319" alt="South Carolina Central Railroad Bishopville Local"></a>

Reginald McDowell shared this yesterday. I also got an unconfirmed report that a third unit got repainted and was renumbered #1533. My hunch is that this is the ex-ATSF GP7 which had worn the number 2027, but that's not confirmed.

03-30-2013, 08:04 PM
It seems GWI has decided to renumber all GP38-2's into the 2000 series, the ex-BAYL units on the GSWR recieved numbers 2014 and 2015. Guess its to allow easy power swapping.

Joe the Photog
04-05-2013, 12:57 PM
Latest renumber and new paint is Carolina Piedmont's GP38-2 #2020, es- New England Central 3847

Joe the Photog
04-08-2013, 02:27 PM
ex-South Carolina Central GP7u #2027 (ex-ATSF, same number) is now painted in GWI colors, numbered 1603, lettered for Atlantic & Western and sntenciled as a GP16. Last seen on the SCRF Saturday April, 6.