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tomcatchamp
03-23-2006, 08:35 PM
Looking for some information about the unit oil trains that the Southern Pacific used to run, I believe on a fairly regular basis, over Cajon Pass or Tehachapi, not sure which one. I'm trying to recreate a similar unit train in my personal N-Scale model railroad layout.

Roughly, how many tank cars were in the general consist of these trains ?

I understand that the SP would often use several locomotives split between head-end power, mid-train and end of train helpers to haul these trains through, up and over the passes. With this I can only assume that the average make up was somewhere in the neighborhood of around 70 to 80 cars.

Does the Union Pacific still run this train today ?

If anyone can give me some more detailed info regarding these trains I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Joe Champlin

bnsf sammy
03-23-2006, 10:58 PM
Heres some information from a Google Search.
The Southern Pacific Railroad operated a unit tank car train to transport crude oil, symbol BKDOU, between Saco, California (7 miles North of Bakersfield) and Dolores, California between September 1983 and October 1997. Much of the time this train existed it consisted of 6 blocks of 12 cars; with helper locomotives 48 cars deep in the train. This train was a daily movement over Tehachapi Pass and was know to many fans as the "Oil Cans" train Hope this helps. :-)

Pat Lorenz
03-23-2006, 11:34 PM
I belong to a N Scale club and we had a guy who modeled this train, looked very awesome. The tank cars were not the exact same car, but whos looking. He used Intermountain DCC tunnelmotors, in both roman and speed scheme. He used i think 4 up front, two in the middle and 2 in the rear. His train, i want to say was about 50 cars long. The tank cars were Atlas 33000 gallon, black cars.
Train looked awesome.
Sometimes we modernized it with BNSF Kato SD70MACS. Or turned it into an Alaskan Oil train with Alaska Kato SD70MACS.

Here are links to his equiptment and links to a picture of his train, or at least some of it.
http://www.blwnscale.com/Atlas%2033,000%20Gallon%20Tankers.htm

http://www.blwnscale.com/InterMountain%20SD40T2,%20SD45T2.htm

http://www.railimages.com/gallery/patlorenz/aaf

I belive they stopped running the train because the oil company installed a pipe line.

bnsf sammy
03-23-2006, 11:40 PM
I belive they stopped running the train because the oil company installed a pipe line.
Yea I second that.

tomcatchamp
03-24-2006, 12:02 AM
Thanks for the replies Sammy and Pat, now I have some good info to go on with my project. Great pictures of the layout with the trains runnin'. I appreciate it very much. My idea is similar to the one the Pat referred to, although I plan on using some custom Southern Pacific painted SD80MAC's for the the engines, I figure about 6 to 8 engines with 75-80 of the new ethynol cars that Athearn is coming out with should look pretty awesome.

Hey, I know it's not proto-typical but this is a model railroad after all.

Thanks Again,

Joe Champlin

Pat Lorenz
03-24-2006, 12:10 AM
Well in N Scale anything looks good. As long as you get the basic idea across it works. My main intrest is coal drags in N Scale. I got me a 60 car Atlas coal train. With 5 NS units up front.

I also got a 15 car Athearn and Atlas Automax train, not really the most prototypical thing because Auto Maxes gennerally dont travel in full out trains, they get mixed in with single cars too.

You might be intersted in looking at M y clubs website, i think you will enjoy it. We kinda do things more modern.

http://home.comcast.net/~tucsonntrak/

Slopes09
03-25-2006, 12:29 AM
I also got a 15 car Athearn and Atlas Automax train, not really the most prototypical thing because Auto Maxes gennerally dont travel in full out trains, they get mixed in with single cars too.

Theres at least one full Automax train that runs on the former ATSF Transcon. It comes off the CSX and runs with CSX power. I've seen it once, but have no idea when it normally runs, since the day I saw it there was a slow order in place and trains were backed up all over the place. Theres also another one, not sure if this is the same one:
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NicTrain35
03-28-2006, 12:04 AM
Mike is correct that there's an automax train that runs daily down the transcon. I saw one a few weeks ago in Lockport, with CSX and HLCX power. I'm not sure which railway it belongs to, though. I've also seen an automax at Lockport with a CSX YN3 SD70MAC. Here's a video of the train: http://www.dailymotion.com/NicTrain35/video/74917