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Holloran Grade 03-20-2011 03:58 AM

Ok it's centered, so what?
 
Usually centering something is a no no, but in this case I think it is appropriate.

What do you think?:confused:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36722129@N06/5538855027/" title="FedEx MultiModal by Holloran Grade (El Roco Photography), on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5538855027_8ed3c291b6_z.jpg" width="640" height="437" alt="FedEx MultiModal" /></a>

CSXRailfanNS 03-20-2011 04:50 AM

This isn't meant to be a jerk statement, I'm only asking cause people would still consider me a noob at railfanning, what's so special about this?

CSXRailfanNS 03-20-2011 04:52 AM

As in the trailer sitting on the flat car.*

If the trailer is something super special then that's fine, but if it's just so so special then I feel like the picture is showcasing more truck and trailer stuff than it is actual railroad.

Holloran Grade 03-20-2011 04:56 AM

Yes, not a 3/4 wedgie.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CSXRailfanNS (Post 133913)
As in the trailer sitting on the flat car.*

If the trailer is something super special then that's fine, but if it's just so so special then I feel like the picture is showcasing more truck and trailer stuff than it is actual railroad.

I you are putting together the FedEx Calendar for the year, then this might be relevant - right?

Just pretend you are doing that.

CSXRailfanNS 03-20-2011 05:02 AM

This is my opinion so bare with me here.

If I was putting together a FedEx calendar, then I wouldn't have a problem at all using this cause I think it looks pretty sweet.

Now if I took this picture and asked myself, would this be accepted to railpictures, then I would tell myself no, only because like I said earlier that it's showcasing more FedEx trailers than trains.

Holloran Grade 03-20-2011 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSXRailfanNS (Post 133918)
This is my opinion so bare with me here.

If I was putting together a FedEx calendar, then I wouldn't have a problem at all using this cause I think it looks pretty sweet.

Now if I took this picture and asked myself, would this be accepted to railpictures, then I would tell myself no, only because like I said earlier that it's showcasing more FedEx trailers than trains.

Right.

But the rejection was for bad cropping, not PEQ (let me know if you don't know what that is) which is why I asked the question.

CSXRailfanNS 03-20-2011 05:11 AM

Oh trust me I do haha, I've had many PEQ's in my time.

For the bad cropping, I think they might mean more in terms of shooting the picture, I say because the entire flat car isn't in the picture. If you took this about 2 or 3 seconds earlier then it might've helped IMO. You might say well that shouldn't matter because the focus isn't on the flat car but on the trailer, you have to think in terms of the screener who doesn't know that the focus is on the FedEx trailer.

Does that make sense?

mark woody 03-20-2011 05:27 AM

[QUOTE Usually centering something is a no no, but in this case I think it is appropriate.

What do you think?:confused:
QUOTE]

It needs Mr Stewart swinging on the brake wheel.:lol::lol:

Holloran Grade 03-20-2011 05:31 AM

Mr. Stewart Update:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mark woody (Post 133925)
[QUOTE Usually centering something is a no no, but in this case I think it is appropriate.

What do you think?:confused:
QUOTE]

It needs Mr Stewart swinging on the brake wheel.:lol::lol:

That is the problem about playing with toys....

Nobody takes you seriously.

BTW, I have a brake wheel off a well car so Mr. Stewart could play with that I suppose.

What Mr. Stewart did this week:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36722129@N06/5533679587/" title="James Stewart at Hill 582 by Holloran Grade (El Roco Photography), on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5015/5533679587_55c79e8a90.jpg" width="500" height="341" alt="James Stewart at Hill 582" /></a>

Chase55671 03-20-2011 06:00 AM

I don't care for the image. It's not for RP, simple as that. Put it aside, I wanna see more Mr. Stewart!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 133926)
That is the problem about playing with toys....

Nobody takes you seriously.

BTW, I have a brake wheel off a well car so Mr. Stewart could play with that I suppose.

What Mr. Stewart did this week:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36722129@N06/5533679587/" title="James Stewart at Hill 582 by Holloran Grade (El Roco Photography), on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5015/5533679587_55c79e8a90.jpg" width="500" height="341" alt="James Stewart at Hill 582" /></a>

:lol:

Chase

Watain 03-20-2011 06:03 AM

Maybe you should try panning it next time. :confused:

Holloran Grade 03-20-2011 06:08 AM

To Pan, or not to Pan...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Watain (Post 133938)
Maybe you should try panning it next time. :confused:

Well I don't want to makes excuses, but my rear view mirror was in the way and there was no road to follow the train down...

And I could not find an 11 year old to drive the car for me and most importantly....


There was that problem with the hill on the right. :twisted:

Mgoldman 03-20-2011 06:09 AM

It works, but I think it would work better following the rule of thirds just a tad smidge more.

It doesn't necessarily stand out - especially on a site like RP. Try Asphaltpictures.net. Or Fedexpic.net. Or... GettyImages.com : )

/Mitch

Holloran Grade 03-20-2011 06:15 AM

Don't look at this Charles
 
For Asphaltpictures.net :twisted:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36722129@N06/5498316126/" title="Things that once went bump in the Night by Holloran Grade (El Roco Photography), on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/5498316126_231b6c0786_m.jpg" width="240" height="163" alt="Things that once went bump in the Night" /></a>

Watain 03-20-2011 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 133939)
Well I don't want to makes excuses, but my rear view mirror was in the way and there was no road to follow the train down...

And I could not find an 11 year old to drive the car for me and most importantly....


There was that problem with the hill on the right. :twisted:

Oh okay I see what you did there.

JimThias 03-20-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 133939)
Well I don't want to makes excuses, but my rear view mirror was in the way and there was no road to follow the train down...

And I could not find an 11 year old to drive the car for me and most importantly....


There was that problem with the hill on the right. :twisted:

He said panning, not pacing. Your mirror shouldn't be in the way if you're standing OUTSIDE the vehicle doing a pan. ;)

milwman 03-20-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 133921)
Right.

But the rejection was for bad cropping, not PEQ (let me know if you don't know what that is) which is why I asked the question.

I am with Chase why would you want it on RP? Your at the point your just testing them to see if you can. It would be a big long shot to get it on and would get a low views?

Freericks 03-20-2011 04:02 PM

The poor coyote.

JimThias 03-20-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 133916)
I you are putting together the FedEx Calendar for the year, then this might be relevant - right?

Just pretend you are doing that.

Do you really think people would want to look at that photo for a month? :lol: :twisted:

PLEzero 03-21-2011 12:54 AM

I think it needs to have a tighter crop. A little too much dead space for me.

Joe the Photog 03-21-2011 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chase55671 (Post 133937)
I don't care for the image. It's not for RP, simple as that. Put it aside, I wanna see more Mr. Stewart!

I agree with 3/4s of this statement. I don't need to see anymore Mr. Stewart. As for the original image, HG, I'm curious as to what you think makes it worthy of RP.

Holloran Grade 03-21-2011 04:57 AM

Must I bring up the "paper" again?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 133955)
Do you really think people would want to look at that photo for a month? :lol: :twisted:

Trailers are a part of railroading.

Why is that so abstract?

[photoid=357051]

At this point I am convinced that someone will look at just about anything.

Further, anything can get a PCA on this Site.

* * * * * *

As for my shot, it was just one of those grabs that I sort of liked.

I liked the dirt cut behind it and I will probably shoot a proper shot with that cut next time I am up there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by PLEzero (Post 133972)
I think it needs to have a tighter crop. A little too much dead space for me.


I agree.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe the Photog (Post 133983)
I agree with 3/4s of this statement. I don't need to see anymore Mr. Stewart. As for the original image, HG, I'm curious as to what you think makes it worthy of RP.

"I" think it is interesting from the trailer point of view and yes it is on a railroad and all that.

Sure it is not this:

[photoid=357448]

But do we really need more of that?

The only reason why I shot that is because a group of us have been trying to get a shot accepted with those bridge railings in the foreground for more than a year.

They just didn't like those railings - I guess because it does not look like a real bridge.

Here is what it looks like from below:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36722129@N06/5444696952/" title="So this is what Snow Looks Like by Holloran Grade (El Roco Photography), on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/5444696952_b6233ffb1d_m.jpg" width="240" height="163" alt="So this is what Snow Looks Like" /></a>


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mgoldman (Post 133941)
....... Or... GettyImages.com : )/Mitch

Note to self, Mr. Goldman is not that impressed with the acceptance standards of Getty Images. :-)

JimThias 03-21-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 133992)
Trailers are a part of railroading.

Why is that so abstract?

[photoid=357051]

Please tell me you didn't just compare your truck trailer shot to Steve's shot, which is completely unlike your shot. :-P

By the way...I've always wondered...what and where is a "holloran grade?"

troy12n 03-21-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 133992)
Trailers are a part of railroading.

Why is that so abstract?

[photoid=357051]

At this point I am convinced that someone will look at just about anything.

Further, anything can get a PCA on this Site.

Not that it matters, but I didn't get that shot either. It's nothing more than a grab shot from an overpass. That said, comparing it to your shot is a stretch...

JRMDC 03-21-2011 01:54 PM

I like the Schmollinger shot, it shows the scene. It isn't just a grab shot, it reasonably incorporates all the elements in the scene. Not a noteworthy composition, but a decent capture. And as it is colorful, I like it. It isn't more than that. Perhaps I react to the term "grab shot" which implies a lack of care and I see some care here.

As for the original shot in the thread, I see it as a roster car shot with distracting background and foreground elements. Too tight to be an interesting shot of the trailing end of a train disappearing behind a hill, too much distraction in the background, and foreground obstruction, to be a good roster. I don't mind car shots or train end shots, but Robert's version does not work for me.


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