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vcode455 04-30-2020 11:21 PM

Top shot
 
A blah shot of a SW1500 beating out the iconic 1983 NRHS triple decker shot at Richmond. What has this world come to?

bigbassloyd 05-01-2020 01:49 AM

The favorites always tell a truer story than views.

Loyd L.

miningcamper1 05-01-2020 04:38 AM

Neither one is near the top-viewed for the week.
Still, 5700 views and 35 faves for the Richmond is not bad at all!

RobJor 05-01-2020 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miningcamper1 (Post 196449)
Neither one is near the top-viewed for the week.
Still, 5700 views and 35 faves for the Richmond is not bad at all!

Non-members cannot favorite image so if many views are originating off site faves will be low(are linked views still counted?). 20 favs for 12000 plus views????? I think as 1pc good for lower count and .5 pct for higher count

I find the Russians contributors overall excel in photography. It is hard to believe this photo is not screeners choice but maybe will show up a POTW. Sadly I missed it until showed up as Peoples Choice. This location is actually north of Sweden, December, does the sun even rise, what was the temp's. I'd guess train stopped for shot (composite and some good PS) unless someone else has insight?

Bob

[photoid=732856]

KevinM 05-01-2020 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 196448)
The favorites always tell a truer story than views.

Loyd L.

Agreed. Any photographer with an overly inflated ego can overly inflate their view-counts with external links, essentially using the site's features to self-promote. But only RP members can favorite an image.

When you see an image with mega-views and relatively few favorites, it is either an image in which you can't tell what you are seeing from the thumb or more likely and image heavily campaigned by the photographer using off-site links. In the case of the shot which started this thread, the image came from a photographer with a long history of forcing his way to To24 through a linking campaign. Based on the stream of submissions, there were others chasing the same train, some of whom actually got better angles IMHO, but their images didn't get the home page exposure, because the individual I am speaking of made sure of that.

bigbassloyd 05-01-2020 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 196450)
Non-members cannot favorite image so if many views are originating off site faves will be low(are linked views still counted?). 20 favs for 12000 plus views????? I think as 1pc good for lower count and .5 pct for higher count

I find the Russians contributors overall excel in photography. It is hard to believe this photo is not screeners choice but maybe will show up a POTW. Sadly I missed it until showed up as Peoples Choice. This location is actually north of Sweden, December, does the sun even rise, what was the temp's. I'd guess train stopped for shot (composite and some good PS) unless someone else has insight?

Bob

[photoid=732856]

Definitely an OCF composite. I really like the shot because it was executed well. A statement I can't say with a lot of OCF shooters on this site.

Loyd L.

Decapod401 05-07-2020 06:59 PM

This shot, posted about three hours ago, will be TO24 at the top of the hour.

[photoid=735232]

How many more drone wedgies from the Canadian border will be campaigned to the top before Admin stops the linking of this guy's images?

RobJor 05-07-2020 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decapod401 (Post 196487)
This shot, posted about three hours ago, will be TO24 at the top of the hour.

[photoid=735232]

How many more drone wedgies from the Canadian border will be campaigned to the top before Admin stops the linking of this guy's images?

LOL!!!! I was just thinking the same thing.

Anyone Remember: "Have Drone will Travel.

Bob

Added: and almost ignored - but 12-2 on Fav's

[photoid=735235]

miningcamper1 05-07-2020 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 196488)

Added: and almost ignored - but 12-2 on Fav's

[photoid=735235]

Great scenery, great light, but I will never fave anything with a big watermark.

KevinM 05-08-2020 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miningcamper1 (Post 196489)
Great scenery, great light, but I will never fave anything with a big watermark.

[photoid=735235]

I usually gloss over the diesel shots, but that one caught my eye as well. Really nice image. Agree on the oversize watermark. I was sort of surprised that it didn't get an SC. We haven't had a new one in a while. When you see one overlooked like that, you sometimes wonder if the photographer is in the doghouse.

Interestingly, I had this shot get picked up by Fickr's "Explore" group last week:

[photoid=735122]

No idea how that works, but it got several thousand views and several hundred likes in 24 hrs. Here, it barely covered 600 views in 24 hrs and only 7 likes. Night shots don't typically do well here, unless of course they are linked on the outside.

miningcamper1 05-08-2020 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 196490)

Interestingly, I had this shot get picked up by Flickr's "Explore" group last week:

[photoid=735122]

No idea how that works...

However Explore works, it was changed dramatically fairly recently. It had become a long page of mediocre photos. The low point was 13(!) photos of garbage trucks in the garbage truck parking lot. Whatever Flickr is doing differently, Explore is now full of good to excellent photos. :smile:

miningcamper1 05-08-2020 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decapod401 (Post 196487)
This shot, posted about three hours ago, will be TO24 at the top of the hour.

[photoid=735232]

How many more drone wedgies from the Canadian border will be campaigned to the top before Admin stops the linking of this guy's images?

That's a trainload of views just from placing links. Where does one find those links?

JimThias 05-08-2020 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 196490)

Interestingly, I had this shot get picked up by Fickr's "Explore" group last week:

[photoid=735122]

Holy crap, is the Jeepers Creeper dude?

https://media.timeout.com/images/101.../472/image.jpg

:lol:

JimThias 05-08-2020 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decapod401 (Post 196487)
This shot, posted about three hours ago, will be TO24 at the top of the hour.

[photoid=735232]

How many more drone wedgies from the Canadian border will be campaigned to the top before Admin stops the linking of this guy's images?

5700+ views and only 3 favorites. :lol: :lol: :lol:

JimThias 05-08-2020 02:15 AM

9,000+ views and only 38 favorites (one of them mine)??? Another case of linking offsite?

This is a really nice photo and it amazes me that only 37 members before me favored it.

[photoid=733327]

tim2002 05-09-2020 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decapod401 (Post 196487)
This shot, posted about three hours ago, will be TO24 at the top of the hour.

[photoid=735232]

How many more drone wedgies from the Canadian border will be campaigned to the top before Admin stops the linking of this guy's images?

I don't come on these forums too often, but after seeing this shitty photo I figured I'd have a look to see if anybody else had commented on it. It only took me about a minute. I agree, the linking from this guy has got to stop. The photo is up over 10K views right now. It's backlit, oddly positioned and frankly plain garbage!!

tim2002 05-09-2020 09:16 AM

This shot is now one of the top shots of the week. What a joke!

miningcamper1 05-09-2020 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim2002 (Post 196500)
I don't come on these forums too often, but after seeing this shitty photo I figured I'd have a look to see if anybody else had commented on it. It only took me about a minute. I agree, the linking from this guy has got to stop. The photo is up over 10K views right now. It's backlit, oddly positioned and frankly plain garbage!!

Oh, come on now!
If the shot did not have such an astounding view count, would you be trashing it like you are doing? :rolleyes:

miningcamper1 05-09-2020 12:26 PM

:lol:
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 196493)
Holy crap, is the Jeepers Creeper dude?

https://media.timeout.com/images/101.../472/image.jpg

:lol:

:lol:
That's quite a find and quite a resemblance there!
[Confession! I made a copy of the station scene, but without a trace of the oiling dude. (Just for fun, of course)]

bigbassloyd 05-09-2020 06:00 PM

Does RP pay for linking clicks? :D

Maybe we're all just missing the boat.

Loyd L.

JimThias 05-09-2020 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim2002 (Post 196500)
I don't come on these forums too often, but after seeing this shitty photo I figured I'd have a look to see if anybody else had commented on it. It only took me about a minute. I agree, the linking from this guy has got to stop. The photo is up over 10K views right now. It's backlit, oddly positioned and frankly plain garbage!!

I find nothing wrong with the lighting. Why should it matter if it doesn't have prominent sunlight on the nose when 99% of the visible train is well lit?

I find the cropping a bit tight (too close to the right side, and not enough foregrond). Otherwise, it's a pretty standard elevated wedgie of a beautiful red locomotive pulling a train. :-)

Grewup on the CW 05-11-2020 08:26 PM

Currently 2791 views AND 31 Favorites:
[photoid=735602]

This photo has not been campaigned (assuming by the current count) and is deserving of more views BUT the favorites speaks volumes. In a fair fight, I cant imagine a blah farm field in the flat lands out viewing these stormy mountainous views.......

bigbassloyd 05-11-2020 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grewup on the CW (Post 196516)
Currently 2791 views AND 31 Favorites:
[photoid=735602]

This photo has not been campaigned (assuming by the current count) and is deserving of more views BUT the favorites speaks volumes. In a fair fight, I cant imagine a blah farm field in the flat lands out viewing these stormy mountainous views.......

Aside from needing some distortion correction, it's a very nice photo.

Loyd L.

vcode455 05-11-2020 09:23 PM

Yeah, and it was getting creamed by you-know-who view wise. There are 4 or 5 names on this site who will almost always get a TO24 when they post. Screeners Choice is another thing altogether. The Midwest is rarely chosen, probably because it is not pretty enough (unless there is some weather event going on). Many locations are multiple SC favorites. In fact some of the same train on the same day at the same location by the same photographer have won the SC award twice! I'll buy a round of drinks if I ever win one! LOL!

RobJor 05-12-2020 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 196517)
Aside from needing some distortion correction, it's a very nice photo.

Loyd L.

[photoid=735594]

And then there is this. Actually I not so predisposed to pick on him but here what I see, the whole building scrunching down and tilted???, the grassy knoll well illuminated, the 7010 trucks have a weird look(might be how they are painted but still weird, the red CP gleaming and 4 Favs. As I mentioned I look for .5 to 1 pct of total views for Fav's, this is .001?? think I got that right, but only 4.

I am kinda conventional but I don't think the whole depot was needed, a crop up, we don't need to see all that nice lawn, and reduce the exposure or the lighting to begin with.????????

I have tons of night shots, some just get rejected, others I write off on my own.

Bob

Also not in love with the latest SC, in my opinion not even close to the one I mentioned that did not get one, nice sky, nice light, oh yea and there is a train off in the corner.

KevinM 05-12-2020 05:02 PM

Ever notice how virtually everything this photographer posts goes straight to To24, and typically within a few hours?

[photoid=735737]

He is quietly one of the most prolific linkers here.... He kicks KB's butt down the road.

Unfortunately, folks like this are basically telling the rest of us: "Excuse me, ya'll need to get out of the way, because I belong at the front." :-x

bigbassloyd 05-12-2020 05:17 PM

It's got that sweet gangsta lean that makes drone photos THE BEST THING EVER!!!!!!!!!!

Loyd L.

Grewup on the CW 05-12-2020 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 196529)
Ever notice how virtually everything this photographer posts goes straight to To24, and typically within a few hours?

[photoid=735737]

He is quietly one of the most prolific linkers here.... He kicks KB's butt down the road.

Unfortunately, folks like this are basically telling the rest of us: "Excuse me, ya'll need to get out of the way, because I belong at the front." :-x

I never took notice! I checked his photos and sure enough, he has an impressive running of top shots. Of his last 45 posted shots, only 13 of them were under 10k views (of those 13, all but 1 was in the 5k to 9k range) . Granted his shots are different to look at and a lot of those shots are not your typical wedge but 10k plus views on 32 plus shots?? Things that make you go hummmmm..........

bigbassloyd 05-12-2020 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 196528)

Also not in love with the latest SC, in my opinion not even close to the one I mentioned that did not get one, nice sky, nice light, oh yea and there is a train off in the corner.

Well it got the grand prize this week :)

Loyd L.

bigbassloyd 05-12-2020 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 196529)
Ever notice how virtually everything this photographer posts goes straight to To24, and typically within a few hours?

[photoid=735737]

He is quietly one of the most prolific linkers here.... He kicks KB's butt down the road.

Unfortunately, folks like this are basically telling the rest of us: "Excuse me, ya'll need to get out of the way, because I belong at the front." :-x

He runs a few facebook groups and has a decently large audience on them. Easier then a 3 piece puzzle I guess.

Loyd L.

KevinM 05-12-2020 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 196533)
He runs a few facebook groups and has a decently large audience on them. Easier then a 3 piece puzzle I guess.

Loyd L.

He can generate as many views as he likes with his social media linking campaign, and I fully understand that RP's advertisers benefit from those linked views. No issues. I just don't think that a ton of FB views should make it look as if all of his shots are the most popular of the day on THIS site.....and I think it is rude of him and others like him to basically muscle all other RP contributors aside simply because he can.

Linked views should not count toward To24.....at least in my humble opinion.

Joseph Cermak 05-12-2020 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grewup on the CW (Post 196531)
I never took notice! I checked his photos and sure enough, he has an impressive running of top shots. Of his last 45 posted shots, only 13 of them were under 10k views (of those 13, all but 1 was in the 5k to 9k range) . Granted his shots are different to look at and a lot of those shots are not your typical wedge but 10k plus views on 32 plus shots?? Things that make you go hummmmm..........

It's a crazy amount of views he gets. Even when something of mine gets to TO24, it's almost always sub 5K views when all is said and done.

Grewup on the CW 05-12-2020 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 196534)
He can generate as many views as he likes with his social media linking campaign, and I fully understand that RP's advertisers benefit from those linked views. No issues. I just don't think that a ton of FB views should make it look as if all of his shots are the most popular of the day on THIS site.....and I think it is rude of him and others like him to basically muscle all other RP contributors aside simply because he can.

Linked views should not count toward To24.....at least in my humble opinion.

Ditto Kevin. How about it admin? This has been a discussion on here many a times. Make your money but filter the linked shot count out of the To24. Is that possible??

Freericks 05-13-2020 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 196529)
Ever notice how virtually everything this photographer posts goes straight to To24, and typically within a few hours?

[photoid=735737]

He is quietly one of the most prolific linkers here.... He kicks KB's butt down the road.

Unfortunately, folks like this are basically telling the rest of us: "Excuse me, ya'll need to get out of the way, because I belong at the front." :-x

He's very tall.

Decapod401 05-13-2020 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 196534)
He can generate as many views as he likes with his social media linking campaign, and I fully understand that RP's advertisers benefit from those linked views. No issues. I just don't think that a ton of FB views should make it look as if all of his shots are the most popular of the day on THIS site.....and I think it is rude of him and others like him to basically muscle all other RP contributors aside simply because he can.

Linked views should not count toward To24.....at least in my humble opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph Cermak (Post 196535)
It's a crazy amount of views he gets. Even when something of mine gets to TO24, it's almost always sub 5K views when all is said and done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grewup on the CW (Post 196536)
Ditto Kevin. How about it admin? This has been a discussion on here many a times. Make your money but filter the linked shot count out of the To24. Is that possible??

Deaf ears aren't likely to get better. Between the four of us, we have generated over 19,250,000 views for this site. That should count for something.

Mike Wilson 05-13-2020 01:33 PM

I never understood nor realized the power of linking/campaigning until one of my railroad photography friends posted my railpictures photo of him on Facebook. It was top shot in less than a day. Thank god for Facebook! ;)

Interestingly a few of mine made it as a "top shot" for what that's worth without any linking over the last week. I wonder why serial linkers think its still necessary after they've garnered a following....

Grewup on the CW 05-13-2020 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decapod401 (Post 196542)
Deaf ears aren't likely to get better. Between the four of us, we have generated over 19,250,000 views for this site. That should count for something.

Doug, I'm honored to be included in the group you mentioned but I feel a bit unworthy with my minuscule 116K views. Granted that every squeaky wheel at some point gets oiled, I'll keeping posting suggestions until someone responds.
This is a great site and I just wished admin would chime in more than they do and at least respond/acknowledge that they are still reading this stuff.

KevinM 05-13-2020 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grewup on the CW (Post 196544)
Granted that every squeaky wheel at some point gets oiled.

Sometimes they don't.....and they seize up! :-D

Grewup on the CW 05-13-2020 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 196545)
Sometimes they don't.....and they seize up! :-D

ROFL. True True and then your like MAN! wished I'd listened!!:lol:

Joe the Photog 05-13-2020 05:18 PM

So it seems like some of you folks wish there was a bottom shot of the day along with th top shot. I never understood the problem you folks have with linking shots to Facebook. I always thought the goal was for people to actually SEE your work, but maybe I am wrong.


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