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J Douglas Moore 05-20-2012 02:47 PM

Ima poor cropper
 
This was rejected for crop.... Suggestions?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...21&key=3452994

Joe the Photog 05-20-2012 02:57 PM

Nose of the engine is way too centered. The overall shot looks a little drab to me, like it needs (more) post processing, certainly some brightening.

J Douglas Moore 05-20-2012 03:02 PM

I tried moving the nose up but still no go...........

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...36&key=9847793

JRMDC 05-20-2012 03:19 PM

There is nothing about the rock at bottom left, or the dried up branch lying on top of it, that deserve such prominence in the shot. And in the cropped version the sky has gone all pebbly.

My only thought is maybe you can make a vertical work; that would put more emphasis on the trackwork as a foreground and not the boulder.

JimThias 05-20-2012 03:38 PM

Do you have a shot where the train is closer to you, thus eliminating any evidence of the ugly P42?

Ron Flanary 05-20-2012 04:02 PM

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This shot certainly has possibilities, so this appears to be a screener who must have thought someone peed in his oatmeal this morning.

I recropped it (and also lightened it a bit). I do like it, though.

http://forums.railpictures.net/attac...1&d=1337526106

Ron Flanary 05-20-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRMDC (Post 155833)
There is nothing about the rock at bottom left, or the dried up branch lying on top of it, that deserve such prominence in the shot.

With all due respect, I thought those were very important and appealing elements of the composition.

Hatchetman 05-20-2012 07:07 PM

That shot is great. You eliminated those horrid genesis units. I'm totally serious.

J Douglas Moore 05-20-2012 09:45 PM

Thanks all for the comments/suggestions...... Ron, I like your crop .... I had submitted this one which is very close and it, too, was rejected, but your version is just cleaner... Thanks......
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...25&key=2266107

I did need to lighten it.... As for the rock, I do agree it is an element that in my mind , needs to stay..... It tells of the harshness of Arizona back country and speaks to the remoteness of this location.......

I have several shots in this sequence and wanted to hide those ugly beasts as best I could...... kinda like taking a photo of Secretariat pulling a plow

Chris Z 05-20-2012 11:09 PM

I think Ron's crop should have nailed it. I noticed an awful lot of noise (?) or jpeg compression (?) or something in this shot. You may want to try and remove it. A little color work will help too.

Here's my shot at it.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/...91565copy2.jpg

Chris Z

Dennis A. Livesey 05-21-2012 01:03 AM

I am with Ron and Chris here. It does need brighting. Check your histogram. I find most color problems go away with a good histogram.

BTW, I like the shot very much because it is so different seeing the train strung out at a right angle.

JimThias 05-21-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Douglas Moore (Post 155841)
equence and wanted to hide those ugly beasts as best I could...... kinda like taking a photo of Secretariat pulling a plow

So you don't have a frame where the locomotive is 1-2 lengths closer to you? It appears that's all it would take to hide the P42 behind it. Didn't machine-gun, eh? ;)

J Douglas Moore 05-23-2012 04:27 AM

Appeal or surrender ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 155851)
So you don't have a frame where the locomotive is 1-2 lengths closer to you? It appears that's all it would take to hide the P42 behind it. Didn't machine-gun, eh? ;)

Jim - This is the best of my 6 shots at this angle....

Ron - They didn't like your crop either.. http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...71&key=5041352

I just do not see a better way to crop this unless we go portrait which I do not favor

Holloran Grade 05-23-2012 04:53 AM

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It might need to be this severe.

Attachment 7479

It is too bad you didn't wait for the train to come most of the way across the bridge, or move about 20 feet to your left.

JimThias 05-23-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 155904)
It is too bad you didn't wait for the train to come most of the way across the bridge, or move about 20 feet to your left.

That's what I've been eluding to. :)

It's still a nice scene and there should be an acceptable crop in there somewhere.

magicman_841 05-24-2012 05:03 PM

O/T: How did you get to the wye itself? There was a BNSF cop blocking the access road!


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