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WetRailsWA 05-21-2007 02:20 PM

Common and Grey Rejection
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=374721&key=0

What can I say? Common power and Grey conditions are my specialty :) Not expecting to fix this one...just don't want you all to think I troll the forums without submitting photos!

Saw the UP 844 and SP 4449 this weekend with my 5-year old.


What an amazing site to see big steam power up close. He announced yesterday that he was going to own a Daylight when he grew up and run it through Seattle. I love it.

Enjoy the week.

JRMDC 05-21-2007 03:21 PM

You didn't get any decent steam shots, then? It was blue skies! But it looks like high sun. Bummer.

Joe the Photog 05-21-2007 03:29 PM

If I had a dime for every time I've seen double header steam.... well, wait a minute. I've never seen double header steam. Never mind. Nice shot. Thanks for sharing.


Joe

Bill 05-21-2007 03:39 PM

I enjoy rainy day images...rain really saturates colors & makes them pop, but very heavy rain (as in your picture) can act just like a fog & dull your colors.
I know you mentioned you don't anticipate saving this one...but if it were mine, I'd crop a lot from the bottom & left (lose as much of that bright paved section as possible).
Probably still too much white sky to get it accepted...but it should improve the image. Good luck...

Joe the Photog 05-21-2007 04:33 PM

I'm confused. I thougth the double header steam shot was rejected.


Joe

John West 05-21-2007 05:20 PM

Common power?
 
My first reaction to your post was MY GAWD the 4449 and 844 have become common power! Of course when I opened up your link I was relieved to see it was common diesels as opposed to "common" steam.

WetRailsWA 05-22-2007 01:42 PM

Sorry for the confusion...I should have split it up a little more or maybe added a thumbnail for the rejected picture. Wanted to share one bad, and one good.

This brings up a good point; given Joe's comments ("I've never seen double header steam") I've submitted a doubleheader steam photo now, only I chose one that shows the whole train rather than cutting it off past the UP 844. Didn't think to post a photo initially because I figured RailPictures would be deluged with stuff from this visit - stuff that was far more professional than mine. Now I notice that not so many shots were submitted.

I'll keep you post on the outcome of the photo I submitted. Thanks!

WetRailsWA 05-22-2007 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill
I enjoy rainy day images...rain really saturates colors & makes them pop, but very heavy rain (as in your picture) can act just like a fog & dull your colors.
I know you mentioned you don't anticipate saving this one...but if it were mine, I'd crop a lot from the bottom & left (lose as much of that bright paved section as possible).
Probably still too much white sky to get it accepted...but it should improve the image. Good luck...

Here's a good example from the same day, and just down the track:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/sho...aspx?id=754057

It was just plain crummy outside, but I was not deterred. With gas prices the way they are, I wanted to take photos of everything despite the weather so my drive would be worthwhile.

Bill, I'm glad you like that photo and I like your suggestions. I gave it a try and the photo looks good with your cropping ideas. Thanks!

WetRailsWA 05-22-2007 02:21 PM

Bad Cropping and Unlevel Horizon:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=375415&key=0


I like how the rejection notice says something along the lines of "visit the forums; there's lots of a good information there."

I'll work it and resubmit!

WetRailsWA 05-22-2007 04:06 PM

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=375429&key=0

Reason(s) for Rejection:

- Too Much Compression: Using too much JPEG compression when saving pixelates the image.
- Undersharpened (Soft)


Uhhh...don't these reasons counter each other?

This is the third rejection on this pic, and the reasons are getting tougher to combat each time. I think I'm done unless the limited tools I have can work magic I've never seen.

JRMDC 05-22-2007 04:17 PM

I"m glad they gave more detail than just "bad quality"! But bad quality it is... :(

As for compression, look at the sky, abrupt changes in color from purple to blue to white. Looks like too much compression.

As for sharpness, there is an overall poor image quality. It may be that the best point of focus is the road in the extreme foreground. It doesn't look well-focused at the engines, certainly not the 2nd engine. And look at the ballast, not sharp. And look at the vegetation just to the right of the SP - not sharp. So it's not just train movement.

I would have guessed the opposite of what the screener said, it looks like a bit too much sharpening in an attempt to rescue a poor quality capture. But then that is a judgment from having seen two versions of it at the same time.

Sorry, Wet, I suspect the original file just doesn't have enough in it to save this one. Too bad.

WetRailsWA 05-23-2007 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRMDC
...I suspect the original file just doesn't have enough in it to save this one. Too bad.

And right you are. Not too sad about it...gave it three tries. I like it for my personal collection in any case. It might be that my eye is hampered by equipment. Who knows? Might have better luck going back to my Vivitar 220SL and Kodachrome.

I did notice something very funny this weekend though...my 5 year old carries our old Sony Mavica FD75 1.3MP floppy disk cam, and it has a better longer optical zoom than my 4MP Olympus! What the...? That has me searching for a new camera now. Looks like I better start posting stuff on eBay to get camera money!

SD70MACMAN 05-23-2007 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetRailsWA
What can I say? Common power and Grey conditions are my specialty :)

Welcome to Seattle, I know that feeling all too well. Life can be a bitch here sometimes :twisted: But I think your CN shot is a loss. If you had less sky and something more distracting, it may be a go.
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You scared me a bit by including the SP 4449 shot and the phrase "common power". Your shot of hte SP though needs a closer crop too. That road in the foreground is not doing a darn thing for the shot. Try re cropping w/ less road. Also, sharpen before compression, compress, then sharpen lightly. Try compressing to 1000x750. I have excellent luck w/ that method.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetRailsWA
Sony Mavica FD75 1.3MP floppy disk cam

WOW! :shock:


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