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JRMDC 10-01-2009 06:35 AM

Gallery: Then and Now
 
I ran across an old slide and realized that it showed a spot in Pittsburgh (CP West Pitt, roughly) that I had seen a few recent shots of here. After considerable effort - it was not a cooperative slide, color-wise - it is on. The area has changed significantly, which is always interesting. Thanks to the Pittsburgh crowd for their coverage of my former (occasional) haunts.

So let's see any then vs. now same spot (roughly) sets of shots, yours, others, whatever.

Mine ( 1978 )

[photoid=298938]

Recent

[photoid=273316]
[photoid=274357]
[photoid=273174]
[photoid=295034]

cblaz 10-01-2009 07:44 AM

Wait a few weeks and enter them in the Trainorders contest.

- Chris

JimThias 10-01-2009 07:40 PM

pffffffffft (changed my mind)

Joe the Photog 10-01-2009 09:14 PM

Columbia, SC April, 1987 F. Will Martin

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/sho...spx?id=1485334

Nearly the same vantage point April 2009 Me

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/sho...spx?id=1589085

If it wenre't for RRPA, I'd never have found Mr. Martin's shot, I bet.

Joe the Photog 10-01-2009 09:18 PM

Those are all good shots, Janusz. Yours looks like it could have been taken ten years before it was save for a few of the cars seen. Which of the shots underneathe is closest to the same vantage point for those of us who haven't been there before?

I've been wanting to go to Pittsburg for years ow. Seeing Bens shot of the NS OCS really makes me wish I had been there by now.

JRMDC 10-02-2009 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe the Photog (Post 100152)
I've been wanting to go to Pittsburg for years ow. Seeing Bens shot of the NS OCS really makes me wish I had been there by now.

First of all, if you ever do go to PittsburgH, they will kick you out if you drop the H. Pittsburg is in Kansas, no one has ever heard of it, precisely because they unwisely choose to omit the proper H. Fools!


None of the vantage points are quite the same. John's 357 shot, the one with the white convention center on the left, shows a street below. That street is the street going straight back from the camera in my shot. Thus, I am guessing that the structure he is in, a parking deck I think, occupies the space of the Greyhound station in my shot. So, from his shot, to get to mine one needs to go down to street level and then back to the left. My shot is facing roughly north and his roughly NNW or something like that.

Brad's shot is taken from about the same vantage point, as is John's other shot, but there he is facing east, toward the other end of the same curve. Ben's shot, in the vicinity but no idea. I haven't been in that area since the construction and I don't recognize anything in his shot.

Pittsburghers, correct any and all of the above, it certainly isn't my territory.

JRMDC 10-02-2009 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe the Photog (Post 100152)
Yours looks like it could have been taken ten years before it was save for a few of the cars seen.

Yeah, that was a time when there was nothing new at all in Pittsburgh for years and years, before its later resurgence.

nikos1 10-02-2009 01:25 AM

Does this count?

January 2009
[photoid=268613]
June 2009
[photoid=297397]

:lol:

travsirocz 10-02-2009 02:21 AM

Reno Jct. Powder River Basin

1993
[photoid=298183]

2008
[photoid=268424]

Chase55671 10-02-2009 02:56 AM

Very neat thread! I have a lot to share, but I'll go through a couple. A fella by the name of Jim Butler (goes by James Butler on RP) used to submit a lot of older stuff to RP taken from St. Albans. As of the past two years, I'm pretty much the only RP.net contributor that submits images from St. Albans on a regular basis..

1980-

[photoid=65679]

2009-

[photoid=271641]

1991- I would've prefered to have photographed the 1991 New River train myself! :)

[photoid=78643]

2008-

[photoid=255929]

2004- Only 5 year differnece, but you can tell a lot has changed!

[photoid=67646]

2009-

[photoid=295789]

Chase

Freericks 10-02-2009 03:19 AM

Morristown NJ 1978

[photoid=216336]

Morristown NJ 2004 (how old am I that my now is also a then?)

[photoid=248693]


Los Angeles CA 1989

[photoid=220313]

Los Angeles CA 2004

[photoid=249179]

cblaz 10-02-2009 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRMDC (Post 100163)
Pittsburg is in Kansas, no one has ever heard of it, precisely because they unwisely choose to omit the proper H. Fools!

Actually, plenty of smart railfans have heard of Pittsburg, and known of the photo possibilities the correctly-spelled town provides.

[photoid=274641]
[photoid=113058]
[photoid=110069]
[photoid=229969]
[photoid=116713]
[photoid=281145]

- Chris
/Since sensitivity is the name of the game on this board recently, I feel the need to mention that the above text is commonly known as "sarcasm."

willig 10-02-2009 10:18 AM

I have some shots that shows how little a place has changed.
1981 [photoid=236428]
2009 [photoid=297321]

1978 [photoid=230133]
2007 [photoid=206408]

How about how a loco has changed somewhat from 1977 to now?

1977 [photoid=234448]
2008 [photoid=263666]

I could re-photograph dozens of places of which I have shots on the DB but they are now all either completely devoid of railway equipment, masked by tress/undergrowth or inaccessible due to later installed high fencing.

Wizzo 10-02-2009 12:05 PM

Some more UK examples

These haven't changed too much. Many of the locations I used in the 80's are simply unusable today - and its not just a few branches in the way - frequently you can't even see the track.

1983
[photoid=198330]


2009
[photoid=288308]


1995
[photoid=197716]


2009
[photoid=295626]


1986
[photoid=195910]


2009
[photoid=282230]

ssw9662 10-02-2009 02:17 PM

Then:
[photoid=198849]
Now:
[photoid=140027]

Then:
[photoid=91804]
Now:
[photoid=217550]

WembYard 10-02-2009 03:23 PM

One from Germany

1981
[photoid=274187]

2008
[photoid=257107]

Oban in Scotland

1979
[photoid=174935]

2009
[photoid=283980]

Wizzo 10-02-2009 04:03 PM

This is one of my favourite then and nows. Not one of mine, but a
great example of what has happened to huge numbers of locations in the UK - once open landscapes have now become nothing more than 'tree lined canyons' as one of the national magazines put it recently.


This is the before shot in 1984 - click on the link in the caption at the bottom to see what the passage of 23 years has done.

http://www.hondawanderer.com/5051_Heyford_1984.htm

lock4244 10-02-2009 05:15 PM

Lovekin (Newcastle) 1990 - besides the
power, not much change:
[photoid=46857]

Now (ok, it's from the other side of the bridge):
[photoid=221109]


Bayview Jct. from the RBG bridge 1983:
[photoid=173899]

1999:
[photoid=40735]

Now:
[photoid=286076]


Washago, Ontario 1967:
[photoid=287860]

Now (2005):
[photoid=98685]


Newtonville, Ontario 1995:
[photoid=142261]

Now (2007) - trees are tall and the power
is different, not much else has changed:
[photoid=191412]

JRMDC 10-02-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 100209)
This is the before shot in 1984 - click on the link in the caption at the bottom to see what the passage of 23 years has done.

Wow! Those years have not been kind to railfans there. It reminds me of lots of places here - steam had its own way of keeping foliage back, and these days such maintenance does not seem to be important to the RRs. It seems that sometimes the main form of control is railfans!

Freericks 10-02-2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRMDC (Post 100216)
Wow! Those years have not been kind to railfans there. It reminds me of lots of places here - steam had its own way of keeping foliage back, and these days such maintenance does not seem to be important to the RRs. It seems that sometimes the main form of control is railfans!


Foliage is not a big deal out here in California (chainlink fencing and/or subdivisions appearing and blocking the ROW are much more the issue).

But I have to say when I go back to my native NJ (Tri-State area) and beloved MD/VA/DC of my youth, I am constantly astounded at the areas that I used to shoot that are now completely grown over.

Wizzo 10-02-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRMDC (Post 100216)
Wow! Those years have not been kind to railfans there. It reminds me of lots of places here - steam had its own way of keeping foliage back, and these days such maintenance does not seem to be important to the RRs. It seems that sometimes the main form of control is railfans!

That one's pretty extreme, but not untypical. In some places I don't think there has been any clearance since the end of steam (1962 - 1968 in the UK depending on the area). This can bring further problems such as badgers and rabbits making their sets or burrows in cutting and embankment sides which weakens them. I guess its probably worse for you over the pond as its been longer since the end of steam.

Its getting worse though - the before picture in the example was taken some 19-20 years after the end of steam and there is virtually no undergrowth. Another 23 years has seen total obliteration of the view. I do know that due to environmental concerns the weedkillers used on the railways today are far less effective than that used in years gone by - I guess thats had a knock on effect beyond the edge of the permanent way.

Joe the Photog 08-15-2010 03:49 PM

Same engine, nearly same spot --

Then

[photoid=117697]

Now

[photoid=277197]

ssw9662 08-15-2010 07:59 PM

I may as well revisit this one since I've found another good comparison.

Harpers Ferry, WV

1947:
[photoid=55532]

1967:
[photoid=167784]

2010:
[photoid=317341]

Darryl Rule 08-16-2010 12:44 AM

I have a couple.

April 1967:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/sho...spx?id=2174542

August 2010:
[photoid=333484]

Altoona, PA

July 1978:
[photoid=327915]

July 2007:
[photoid=192948]

December 2003:
[photoid=44988]

July 2010:
[photoid=331071]

Cresco, PA

February 2005:
[photoid=95972]

June 2010:
[photoid=329386]

coborn35 08-16-2010 02:22 AM

Then (Pretty much 1965-2008 for maroon):
[photoid=157955]

Now:
[photoid=333423]
If your lucky:
[photoid=321034]


Then (2006):
[photoid=137369]

Now (2010):
[photoid=331163]

Then (1976 and 2005):
[photoid=143507]
[photoid=116008]

Now (2010):
[photoid=314690]
[photoid=324761]

Although it is still possible to get VERY lucky in 2010:
[photoid=322884]


Then (1976):
[photoid=145775]

Now. Its nice how some things stay the same. Engineer is actually the youngest ever promoted by the CP. (2010):
[photoid=316509]


Then (1980):
[photoid=222209]

Now (2010):
[photoid=268951]

Then (1991):
[photoid=240466]

Now (2010):
[photoid=327382]


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