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jdirelan87 01-10-2011 04:35 PM

This is gonna piss people off
 
[photoid=351147]

Despite checking the new posts, I still can't believe I'm the first to link this photo.... I must have missed a thread somewhere.

PS - for the record; I'm pretty neutral about the photo.

PSS - I'd be hard press to believe this one just slipped through the cracks.

Flowing 01-10-2011 04:47 PM

Straight from the site's photo guidelines:

"The purpose of our website is to display genuine, authentic photographs of trains and railroad related scenes. Bearing this in mind, digital manipulation of photographs (beyond standard post-processing techniques such as levelling, sharpening, dust removal, etc.) is not permitted on photographs submitted to RailPictures.Net."

I think the guidelines should be ammended if this is no longer the case. This site seems to be taking off in a different direction here lately.

PS - I am not attempting to call out the photographers or criticize the screeners; just making an observation. While I personally am not a fan of manipulated images, it's their site, etc.

troy12n 01-10-2011 04:51 PM

Not as much as this: [photoid=351073]

I actually dont have a problem with stuff like that at all if they come out and say it's ok. But to let 1 in (or like that one last week) every once in a while just promotes threads like this and dissatisfaction.

lock4244 01-10-2011 05:27 PM

Standards are applied differently depending on the photographer it would seem.

nikos1 01-10-2011 05:33 PM

I saw it, came so close to posting something about it, but then figured why bother, someone else will do it within a few hours lol. Atleast this is manipulation with no intent of hiding it, I'll take this over fake pan shots that STILL have not been removed....

bigbassloyd 01-10-2011 06:22 PM

There sure have been alot of illustrations uploaded lately, so I guess it's ok to do so now.

Loyd L.

milwman 01-10-2011 06:32 PM

Seen it and if thats what they want fine by me. But needs a sub heading ART.

John Ryan 01-10-2011 06:45 PM

Was there a thread on this one too?

[photoid=350736]

JimThias 01-10-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Ryan (Post 128431)
Was there a thread on this one too?

[photoid=350736]

:lol: I knew I could depend on you. ;-)

Joe the Photog 01-10-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy12n (Post 128419)
Not as much as this: [photoid=351073]

I actually dont have a problem with stuff like that at all if they come out and say it's ok. But to let 1 in (or like that one last week) every once in a while just promotes threads like this and dissatisfaction.

This is certainly rail related, in my opinion. I have zero problem with this shot in.

I may have reversed the color selection in the shot linked originally. And then posted it on my Flickr site.

Chase55671 01-10-2011 09:38 PM

I like the selective color photo. I really have no problems with the photoshopped material getting accepted as of lately, but I do have problems if they're only allowing this for certain contributors. Many have told me that it's pretty obvious that photoshopped material will get accepted, as long as the "wow" factor overpowers the photos technical flaws, per the RP guideline system.

While I suppose that's OK, I think proper mentioning of it needs to be made in the guidelines so there aren't any flame wars and I think this should apply to all contributors, too. Certainly not fair to only allow a select few to "push the limit' and the rest get dinged with overprocessed/digitally manipulated.

Infact, they should almost do away with the overprocessed/manipulated rejection, as it contradicts with the accepted material. Again, sure, if the occasional exception to that rejection prompts something to be accepted, it seems many try to follow to see if they, too, can "push the limit" of acceptable and unacceptable with the screeners.

It's almost like a photoshopped/manipulated version of the PEQ. It's a subjective rejection, that could be given if the screener is not "wowed" enough by your photo. If he doesn't like it, he has the overprocessed/manipulated rejection to fall back on.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it..

Chase

MTM9 01-10-2011 11:34 PM

The first thing I thought about when I got on tonight was when did the "guidelines" change because they obviously have again.

barnstormer 01-11-2011 12:15 AM

Wow I am amazed that these shots are getting on.

asis80 01-11-2011 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chase55671 (Post 128475)
I like the selective color photo. I really have no problems with the photoshopped material getting accepted as of lately, but I do have problems if they're only allowing this for certain contributors.

While I suppose that's OK, I think proper mentioning of it needs to be made in the guidelines so there aren't any flame wars and I think this should apply to all contributors, too. Certainly not fair to only allow a select few to "push the limit' and the rest get dinged with overprocessed/digitally manipulated.

Exactly, you said it perfectly. I'm not nuts about calling the site out on favoritism, but think. If you, I, or anyone else would submit that same exact shot in question, you know very well it wouldn't get through. Just those select few.



Quote:

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it..



Chase
No, keep reading.

Ben

bigbassloyd 01-11-2011 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Ryan (Post 128431)
Was there a thread on this one too?

[photoid=350736]

Yes, but not here.. :D

Loyd L.

sd9 01-11-2011 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdirelan87 (Post 128417)
[photoid=351147]

Despite checking the new posts, I still can't believe I'm the first to link this photo.... I must have missed a thread somewhere.

PS - for the record; I'm pretty neutral about the photo.

PSS - I'd be hard press to believe this one just slipped through the cracks.

I think it just got pulled:shock:

nikos1 01-11-2011 01:21 AM

Now can they pull the fake pan shot while they are at it? Or atleast let me turn every roster shot I take into a pan shot from now on for extra views.

Mgoldman 01-11-2011 01:46 AM

I would guess that John had the photo removed which is regrettable considering A) the image was creative and well executed and B) the issue at hand was not with John but rather admin in selectively bending the posted rules. Where is the logic in having admin pull only one such manipulated image among so many other recent examples which remain?

I welcome RP's acceptance of what promises to be a fascinating series of images that would otherwise be hard to find elsewhere, however, like my movie tastes, I prefer to keep fact and fiction separated.

Railimages.net, anyone?

/Mitch

barnstormer 01-11-2011 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sd9 (Post 128503)
I think it just got pulled:shock:

You are right. I noticed that as well.

PLEzero 01-11-2011 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikos1 (Post 128506)
Now can they pull the fake pan shot while they are at it? Or atleast let me turn every roster shot I take into a pan shot from now on for extra views.

link?

(extra text)

stlgevo51 01-11-2011 02:14 AM

[photoid=324538]
I believe this is the photo in question. In fact, Adam even says it in the comments section.

JimThias 01-11-2011 02:15 AM

You know what's pissing me off? All the unlevel shots being accepted lately. WTF?

stlgevo51 01-11-2011 02:26 AM

Wow. It's gone! I posted the pan shot and walked away for a minute and when I came back it was gone! That was pretty darn quick if you ask me.

bigbassloyd 01-11-2011 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 128515)
You know what's pissing me off? All the unlevel shots being accepted lately. WTF?

well duh.. unlevel = artistic.. sheesh..

:D

Loyd L.

troy12n 01-11-2011 02:45 AM

So they pulled this one and left the piece of paper? WTF?

Like I said, this one had some merit, unlike the piece of paper.


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