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StL-rail 07-05-2017 04:13 AM

I feel like they're nitpicking this one...
 
Thoughts?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...25&key=7126120

miningcamper1 07-05-2017 04:37 AM

I'm not posting the cookie-cutter pic again, but I guess that's what they wanted.
And I suppose they wanted more light on the trucks.

Mberry 07-05-2017 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miningcamper1 (Post 191710)
I'm not posting the cookie-cutter pic again, but I guess that's what they wanted.
And I suppose they wanted more light on the trucks.

Agreed. Both rejections are legit by rp standards IMO.

bigbassloyd 07-05-2017 02:21 PM

Crop it and do some photoshop voodoo with the shadow tool

Loyd L.

JimThias 07-05-2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 191712)
Crop it and do some photoshop voodoo with the shadow tool

Loyd L.

Definitely needs a crop, and while I don't mind the lighting much on this one, I always enjoy doing a little voodoo shadows work on the undercarriage.:grin:

Attachment 9467

RobJor 07-05-2017 05:14 PM

It is a nice action shot with a pleasant background, becoming rare power, should make it in in some version.. I like Jim's, but it does put it TDC so not sure how that will work here, could crop a little on the bottom and add in some sky.

Speaking of bottoms, a few swimsuits in the foreground could help?

Bob

StL-rail 07-05-2017 05:55 PM

I guess it's time to suck it up and get photoshop. (Almost all my photos have very little post processing.) Would Photoshop Elements 15 be a good place to start?

bigbassloyd 07-05-2017 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StL-rail (Post 191718)
I guess it's time to suck it up and get photoshop. (Almost all my photos have very little post processing.) Would Photoshop Elements 15 be a good place to start?

Absolutely. I'm still using Elements 10 and Photoshop cs/2 :D

Loyd L.

JRMDC 07-05-2017 07:44 PM

In my view all the versions of this shot seen here are too dark.

miningcamper1 07-05-2017 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JRMDC (Post 191720)
In my view all the versions of this shot seen here are too dark.

I've noticed that too-dark photos outnumber too-light ones on the web by a wide margin. In this case, IrfanView lightened maybe 1/3 to 1/2 stop.

Of course, monitors vary, but if photos by pros look good on mine, I'm happy.

StL-rail 07-05-2017 10:04 PM

Where do I find the shadows tool?

Joe the Photog 07-05-2017 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StL-rail (Post 191718)
I guess it's time to suck it up and get photoshop. (Almost all my photos have very little post processing.) Would Photoshop Elements 15 be a good place to start?

I actually am using Gimp right now. And let's be clear -- not doing post processing in 2017 is not a bad of honor. At the very least, you need to crop this one

miningcamper1 07-06-2017 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by StL-rail (Post 191722)
Where do I find the shadows tool?

Some versions of Windows have separate highlights and shadows dials, as well as selective color enhance/desaturate. Windows 8.1 for sure. Latest versions of 10 may have a different editor.

StL-rail 07-06-2017 01:48 AM

I think they're just going to keep hitting it for high sun, which it really isn't that bad, but whatever.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...47&key=2319340

I still think it was the best shot of the day: location, subject matter, and the fact that this particular shot may never be available again.

miningcamper1 07-06-2017 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StL-rail (Post 191725)
I think they're just going to keep hitting it for high sun, which it really isn't that bad, but whatever.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...47&key=2319340

I still think it was the best shot of the day: location, subject matter, and the fact that this particular shot may never be available again.

Whatever you did emphasized the high sun look compared to Jim's edit.
If you acquire a more sophisticated editor and get comfortable with it, you might want to revisit this shot sometime.

JimThias 07-06-2017 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StL-rail (Post 191722)
Where do I find the shadows tool?

On the bench right next to the highlight tool. :wink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by StL-rail (Post 191725)
I think they're just going to keep hitting it for high sun, which it really isn't that bad, but whatever.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...47&key=2319340

:eek: I think you grabbed the wrong tool. :twisted:

Seriously, though, it appears you nuked the entire image when only the shadowed pilot and trucks needed to be lightened (like in my edit).

StL-rail 07-06-2017 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 191730)
On the bench right next to the highlight tool. :wink:

Photoshop Elements 15 has this right? I don't even see a specific tool just for highlights either.

troy12n 07-06-2017 06:35 PM

Look, legitimately it is high sun. Look at the shadows on the pilot and the fact that you can't even see the trucks.

No version of photoshop is fixing that.

Needs cropped too. Don't feel they are nitpicking it.

Joe the Photog 07-07-2017 03:23 AM

You must have forgot to crop it. It's still really badly centered

StL-rail 07-08-2017 03:20 PM

No, I liked that crop to show more of the water, I know the subject wasn't where RP necessarily wants it to be.

Joseph Cermak 07-08-2017 04:36 PM

If you want to show that water on the right, I would recommend taking a bunch off the bottom and the left so the loco isn't centered.

Decapod401 07-08-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StL-rail (Post 191749)
No, I liked that crop to show more of the water, I know the subject wasn't where RP necessarily wants it to be.

Her's my take on the crop from the OP. This one puts the subject within range of ROT, and shows plenty of water, and the boats, which are the real points of interest related to the water.

Attachment 9468

Still needs highlights/levels work as suggested by others, but with those corrections, I don't think the high sun will be objectionable. With cropping that falls within RP expectations, I think this would get on.

coborn35 07-10-2017 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StL-rail (Post 191725)
I think they're just going to keep hitting it for high sun, which it really isn't that bad, but whatever.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...47&key=2319340

I still think it was the best shot of the day: location, subject matter, and the fact that this particular shot may never be available again.

No, its bad. Look at the trucks. See how dark they are? Its very harsh high sun. Like everyone suggested, maybe try lightening the trucks. Also I am curious, if you are off duty then why do you wear PPE when you take pictures?

Joseph Cermak 07-10-2017 05:56 PM

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Looks like an earlier frame got on, though I still would have done some more shadows work on those trucks.

StL-rail 07-10-2017 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coborn35 (Post 191774)
Also I am curious, if you are off duty then why do you wear PPE when you take pictures?

Safety for one, but also working for CP means you never know who is watching...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph Cermak
Looks like an earlier frame got on, though I still would have done some more shadows work on those trucks.

I would have liked to, but apparently PS Elements 15 doesn't have that capacity. Does anyone know what the best FULL version of Photoshop is available for purchase right now?


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