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Joey Bowman 11-13-2010 03:39 PM

Unstoppable
 
I apologize if there is already a thread, looked around but couldn't find one.

Any body go see it yesterday besides me? If so what did you think? I try my best not to scrutinize movies and try to over look small inaccuracies. With that being said I thought it was great. Probably my favorite new movie of this year, at least my favorite action movie of this year.

coborn35 11-13-2010 03:42 PM

No attention was paid to the railroad part. Complete joke.

Train-a-Mania 11-13-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coborn35 (Post 124514)
No attention was paid to the railroad part. Complete joke.

What do you make of the fictional AWVR reporting mark? The cab number spray-painted on the inside of the cab? The fact that the film centers on railroading? No attention paid to railroading? I beg to differ.

I saw the film yesterday and adored it. I'll try to create a longer review in the future, but for the time being, I'd say that if you ignore certain incorrect terminology, you'll have a great time!

Joey Bowman 11-13-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Train-a-Mania (Post 124519)
What do you make of the fictional AWVR reporting mark? The cab number spray-painted on the inside of the cab? The fact that the film centers on railroading? No attention paid to railroading? I beg to differ.

I saw the film yesterday and adored it. I'll try to create a longer review in the future, but for the time being, I'd say that if you ignore certain incorrect terminology, you'll have a great time!

I was really impressed with some of the details, such as the engine info painted on the inside, I was halfway expecting it to say CP #### or where ever the engine came from. I thought the locomotives looked great and loved how there were several different paint styles much like you would find on any railroad.


The only things I could truly find nit pick worthy were some of the filming locations, the train went through a location one way then half an hour came through it the other way, of course they only have so many locations they can shoot at so I understand. One or two clips showed the incorrect consist, like when Denzel was walking on the cars briefly you could see the whole train, except 1206 was missing on the end. Other than that I thought it was great. Really thinking about going again, or at least again when it gets to the dollar theatre.

Going to drag my girlfriend to it again as well, i've seen all those god forsaken twilight movies 2 or 3 times in the theatre!

PLEzero 11-13-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by coborn35 (Post 124514)
No attention was paid to the railroad part. Complete joke.

It's not a documentary. It's not a railfan movie. It's a movie for the general public and like every single movie out there has technical flaws. With that being said, all of my friends who have seen it seemed to like it. I'll throw my two cents in on Monday after I have seen the film.

N. Herring 11-13-2010 09:08 PM

I have yet to watch it, but plan on doing so

Joe the Photog 11-13-2010 10:02 PM

I'm seeing it with my wife and kids on Monday. Can't wait.

Chris Kilroy 11-13-2010 10:22 PM

Going tonight with the girlfriend. I went to see that idiotic talking dog movie a couple years ago with her, so this is payback. Hope it's as good as the trailer makes it look!

Ween 11-14-2010 12:26 AM

My wife and I both enjoyed it. Very good action and acting (as expected from Denzel; Chis Pine held his own); the direction was pretty tight. Of course there were technical flaws (SD40-2s aren't 5000hp as stated) and some continuity errors, but those are easily overlooked in the context of the entire film.

Some of the helipcopter choreography with the trains was really superb!

Put away the technicals (like I do everytime I watch a movie with airplanes and/or the military) and you'll have a good time!

IHapsias 11-14-2010 02:37 AM

It was a nice movie. Better than I thought it would be. Though I noticed some fictional facts pretty fast.. When they start the units up, why do they sound like EMD's? They also rated a SD40-2 at 5,000 horsepower.

TAMR159 11-14-2010 04:06 AM

There were a very large number of errors I noticed throughout it, but that's to be expected in such a movie - besides, they're marketing the movie to the general public, not us hardcore train buffs. For someone who doesn't know what an SD40-2 is (or cares for that matter), it was a pretty good movie...somewhat predictable plot, but still good. I'll probably buy the DVD when it comes out - hell, I might even go see it again in the theater.

EMTRailfan 11-14-2010 07:48 PM

The inaccuracies have already been covered as far as not watching the movie as a railfan or "rail". I thought the movie itself was awesome, and may even see it again. But then came the song for the closing credits...WTF is that???!!! They couldn't get a RR themed song? AC/DC, Ozzy, 3 Doors Down, or even one of Johnny Cash's train songs would have been a helluva lot better than that crap.

Christopher Muller 11-14-2010 08:39 PM

I'm with Ween. It is a good movie, not an accurate depiction of what really happened (which I'm sure no one expected it to). My sister who could care less about trains loved the movie. My nephew also loved it. Not exactly a show for a 7 year old, but he loved it.

There were some flaws that the director overlooked. Including the 777 having damage before any impact. Then in the next shot there was no damage. After the initial collision one of the ditch lights goes out. In the next shot the other ditch light was out, but the original one was back on.

Overall, the excellent footage of a fictional railroad was worth it for me. I would love to railfan in the heli's they were using.

lost bouy 11-15-2010 02:01 PM

I thought the movie was good but what "True Story" did they base this off of?
The closest thing I could think of was that runaway CSX train a couple years ago. Also, I donít think a 39 car train is the size of the Chrysler building. 50 or 75 car train maybe but 39?

Joey Bowman 11-15-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lost bouy (Post 124602)
I thought the movie was good but what "True Story" did they base this off of?
The closest thing I could think of was that runaway CSX train a couple years ago. Also, I donít think a 39 car train is the size of the Chrysler building. 50 or 75 car train maybe but 39?

36 cars at 50feet per car would be just under 2,000 feet. Im sure that some cars are longer or shorter, dont know much about rail car length either. The Chrysler Building is around a 1,000 feet tall I believe.

And yes thats the story the movie was "inspired" by

PLEzero 11-15-2010 03:33 PM

Here is a good article written by a railfan.

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/2...1119863/-1/ART

Joe the Photog 11-16-2010 01:33 AM

I took my wife and kids to see it. My wife was grabbing my arm the whole time on the figurative edge of her seat. My daughter was transfixed by the movie. My son, who is ten, couldn't get past the idea that they "blew up" two engines. I'm not sure, but I think he's mourning the actual engines because he seemed fine with the death of the man in the engine.

As a TV news photographer, I had more problems with their unrealistic breaking news coverage than anything. But it wasn't anything I couldn't look past.

Great movie. Can't wait for the DVD,

troy12n 11-16-2010 11:09 PM

Spoiler: Captain Kirk stops the bad guy, but the train still wrecks at the end.

PLEzero 11-16-2010 11:53 PM

I thought it was going to be terrible last year when I first heard about the movie but it turned out to be really good. I noticed a few technical flaws but nothing that every single movie doesn't have. I think coborn35 is being far too critical or hasn't even seen the movie as he listed no evidence supporting why he thought it was a "complete joke". There were some inaccuracies but no one in the general audience would ever know (5,000 HP SD40-2 for example, magical switches). I personally thought the climax was a bit far fetched to ever happen in reality (physics) but it is a fictional movie so whatever works. No one else that has seen the movie seemed to complain about it.

I'll give it a B+

Since I live in the area the movie was shot in I found it particularly interesting. Many of the names of real railroad places were kept (Brewster, Olean). There was also plenty of nice train shots and a lot of Wheeling & Lake Erie locomotives floating around if you were paying close attention. Overall, the movie was well shot, well acted, and worth watching if you're looking for an action packed suspenseful movie with trains. Basically, the complete opposite of "Atomic Train".

Here are some photos of equipment in the movie

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Other photos of the equipment can be seen with the search term "Allegheny and West Virginia (AWVR)"

Soo 6060 11-17-2010 02:34 AM

Even with the brake pipe disconected here's what should've happened: After 60 seconds, the aleter should've gone off, and put the train in emergency. Whenever a train is put in emergency, no matter what the cause, the PCS (Power cutout switch) is opened, shutting off the throttle.

PLEzero 11-17-2010 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Soo 6060 (Post 124710)
Even with the brake pipe disconected here's what should've happened: After 60 seconds, the aleter should've gone off, and put the train in emergency. Whenever a train is put in emergency, no matter what the cause, the PCS (Power cutout switch) is opened, shutting off the throttle.

From the Toledo Blade article above.

..."But in so doing, the report said, he failed to place his engine's brake-throttle selector in the braking position, and when he then shifted a control handle into full-power position, it was in full-throttle instead of full-brake. While he changed the switch, the train slowly pulled away before he could climb back aboard.

Locomotives have mechanical brakes as well as engine brakes, and the engineer had set the mechanical brake properly. Because that brake was set, a “dead-man” feature designed to stop the train if its engineer became incapacitated was disabled.

Movie dialogue soon brings up the “dead-man” feature, and a trainmaster played by actress Rosario Dawson explains that because the train's air brakes are not connected, it wouldn't work. Th at isn't exactly true, as the dead-man feature should also activate the locomotives' own brakes, but for the sake of simplicity one could assume that the movie engineer also applied the locomotive brakes."

Jesse 11-17-2010 12:18 PM

I have yet to see it.
Been working to much and not a big fan of movie theaters.
Hopefully this weekend i can catch an early show.

This pic my buddy in upstate New York snapped a little over a year ago during filming.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...c/b_140514.jpg

not to highjack the thread, but i watched an older movie last night called Runaway Train.

Was wondering if Unstoppable was along the same lines....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IsWL-9kRis


and for those wondering, here are the filming locations:
Beech Creek, Pennsylvania, USA

Bellaire, Ohio, USA

Bellefonte, Pennsylvania, USA

Benwood, West Virginia, USA

Brewster, Ohio, USA

Bridgeport, Ohio, USA

Eldred, Pennsylvania, USA

Emporium, Pennsylvania, USA

Follansbee, West Virginia, USA

Julian, Pennsylvania, USA

Martins Ferry, Ohio, USA

Milesburg, Pennsylvania, USA

Mingo Junction, Ohio, USA

Monaca, Pennsylvania, USA

Monroeville, Pennsylvania, USA

Navarre, Ohio, USA

Olean, New York, USA

Pacific Harbor Line, Wilmington, Los Angeles, California, USA

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

Port Allegany, Pennsylvania, USA

Port Matilda, Pennsylvania, USA

Portville, New York, USA

State College, Pennsylvania, USA

Steubenville, Ohio, USA

Turtlepoint, Pennsylvania, USA

Tyrone, Pennsylvania, USA

Unionville, Pennsylvania, USA

Universal Studios - 100 Universal City Plaza, Universal City, California, USA
(studio)

Wheeling, West Virginia, USA

Jesse 11-17-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Bowman (Post 124521)
...............Going to drag my girlfriend to it again as well, i've seen all those god forsaken twilight movies 2 or 3 times in the theatre!

oh do i feel your pain:-x

troy12n 11-17-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 124722)
oh do i feel your pain:-x

Taking her to it more than once = he wont be getting any for a while... :grin:

Joey Bowman 11-18-2010 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 124721)
\
not to highjack the thread, but i watched an older movie last night called Runaway Train.

Was wondering if Unstoppable was along the same lines....
\


Its along the same lines in that there is a run away train that plows through the end of another train at one point in the movie. Other then that (in my opinion) there are no real similarities.


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