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Old 06-18-2020, 03:14 AM   #125
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I disagree with your assessment of the current situation. It looks to me like the linked views have been divorced from the "organic" views for TO24 purposes for everyone. The free reign photographer's view counts are down from where they've been, and I suspect that admin also imposed the one submission/person in TO24 at any given time. As far as the derailments and such, if the organic viewers find an accepted shot compelling enough to click on it more than something that you or I like better, who are we to dispute it? You're trying to impose subjective views on what should be allowed, and that is not a level playing field.
I'm really surprised you take this view, Doug.

You suggest now that admin has removed Top of Last 24 privileges to four whole people, (though Kevin B can still get one in every time) and the problem's been solved, despite that others, though not as prolific, still do the same. It's a step in the right direction, but if you scroll the pics on any given day, you'll see an average - some lower, some higher, yet STILL those that are significantly higher in views DESPITE quality, or if quality, they still manage overtake other more appealing images - personal taste factors in, of course, but favorites and commenting often suggest more appealing images are being buried (aka, hidden /less viewed) under better campaigned images. I always (had) liked the fact that unlike the periodicals, on RP, it was not who you knew, or how hard you brown nosed and campaigned, but rather, the quality of your photo that got your images seen.

(Incidentally, I'd have no issue with Erik Lindgren occupying the Top of the Last 24 - 24/7 - I think images like his are fantastic. But when often generic shots overtake such shots considerably faster than pics the likes of his, it's frustrating not only to long time patrons, but new patrons still getting a feel for the site.)




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So you want to give out participation awards? If a shot is compelling enough to organically go to the top in a few hours, for whatever reason, it deserves to be there for the rest of the 24 hour period.
No - when /where did I even come close to suggesting a participation award? I am simply suggesting getting away from the train magazine practice where it's always a small circle of photographers that regularly get featured most prominently - regardless of the appeal of their photos. I like a little variety. I have no qualms sharing the front page with other great photographers that would otherwise be unseen at Top 5th pic of the Last 24. Last thing I'd like to see on RP are more photographers leaving or not joining because they can't break into the circle - at least, not without significant link whoring or prolific linking.

Incidentally - As much as I really enjoy your pics, I sense some possible bias in that you personally might lose some front page time which after hours on the front page, you might forfeit some time later at #1 to allow some other photographers a little spotlighting. I think many here get a little frustrated when they see their pic - perhaps one they really want seen, happens to post along with someone's derailment series. Or Darwins... Larry's Trucks, Ect.

/Mitch

And the alternate option to simply disconnect linked views still has many pluses. Last thing I want to do is make having my images seen a job. Leave the campaigning to the politicians. Their ideas often similarly unappealing rise to the top as well. F8 and campaign it, the new slogan for the modern photographer.

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