Old 05-02-2008, 01:30 PM   #1
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This week, I've submitted 13 shots to the database. Only one has been accepted. Some I can live with; others get me irritated.

Shot 1

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=436492560

Shot 2

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=155405600

Trying to show other things besides just trains. This car interests me because I have no idea why it's been there for so long. The next shot is something you don't always see on RP either

Shot 3

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=408628256

Shot 4

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1097305700

By the way, this should show the folks out there that feel some of us get any old shot in the database that they're wrong. Being on these forums or in the "clique" or being "known" doesn't mean squat. Also, the one shot I had accepted this week, well, turns out it was a duplicate, so I requested it be taken down.



I'm at the point where I don't feel like going through the reprocesses that I did with the Hartwell shots to get them in. I was just wondering if you guys have opinions to share. And I know some of you do. Is it too soon to get a new term coined for me? Joe Contrast?


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Old 05-02-2008, 01:47 PM   #2
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What? You have a color named after you and now you want a nickname also?

First: dark bridge, overexposed nose. The repeated squares of light, if that is what they are, are sort of cool, but it is still a dark train, and in shadow, set against a bright sky. I wonder if this one is actually made worse by being BW.

Second: no comment, not my thing

Third: a big mass of black dominates the shot, I can't envision how that can be overcome

Fourth: I don't have a good eye for contrast generally, and I am on a bad monitor, so I have no comment. Well, it seems fine, and given this monitor, that means it lacks in contrast when seen on a good one.
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Old 05-02-2008, 02:06 PM   #3
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First one I like the well lit nose. Something has to be different though. Either the sky needs clouds or the bridge needs to be better lit. Maybe try a vertical crop of the locomotive front and some of the bridge.

second one in blah to me.

third one I like the idea. maybe do a vertical on the guys and crop some of the left off.

the trees in the forth one are too busy and take my attention away from the engineer.
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I'd give the fourth one another try... the other three don't do whole lot for me.
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I'd go back to that tank car to see if there is some refined diesel or gasoline left in it......
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I'd go back to that tank car to see if there is some refined diesel or gasoline left in it......
Now there's a railfan trip that would pay for itself. I actually like the tank car shot; there's something striking about the way the plants are growing up on it.

As far as #3 goes, I'm not sure about the bad contrast, but unfortunately the sun is at the wrong angle. Nice composition though, its always amazing to be reminded of the size of these machines (and ever their parts) as compared to a person.
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Joe, I think the contrast issue on #4 is coming because there is too much. The white number on the side is just screaming white, almost making me want to squint. I think if you can control the bright whites, you won't run into a contrast issue.

Are you using the channel mixer in monochrome to get the b&w conversion?
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I'd give the traction motor shot another go, It's kind of cool the way they just dumped it there on it's back. Having a couple of blokes there to give a size comparison works well.



You need to put some light into the shadows I used the Shadow/High light tool in Photoshop to bring them up and I knocked a little bit out of the high lights as well.

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I'd also give the fourth one another ago ...

The screeners appear to be very critical of contrast in black and white shots.
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The screeners appear to be very critical of contrast in black and white shots.
Well, contrast issues are more apparent in BW, and one can argue that they are more central to the appearance. A mix of colors, after all, is just a set of contrasting colors, and once you take that away, what is left is only the contrast in tonality.

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The tank car was interesting to me. I've seen many, many "different" shots on here that are much less intriguing and don't raise nearly as many questions as that one. But, as I've said before, I'm not one of the screeners.
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