Old 05-14-2008, 02:26 AM   #1
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I got this one rejected for bad color and high sun.

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I don't think this looks like high sun at all, but I'm not sure about the color. Comments please?
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:37 AM   #2
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CSXT 1! How cool.

High sun? I'm not seeing it. Bad color, maybe; the yellow, as well as the greens in the background, look a bit weak. It could stand some increased saturation.
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:02 AM   #3
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According to the shadows, this isn't high sun...but it is definitely poor lighting. The contrast/color does look a little odd, too.

Looks like your camera's date/time feature incorrect, too:

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Original Date/Time = 2006:01:01 13:03:04
January 1st...in Kentucky? And that definitely doesn't look like a 1:03pm sun angle. haha

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Old 05-14-2008, 01:34 PM   #4
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January 1st...in Kentucky? And that definitely doesn't look like a 1:03pm sun angle. haha
That brings an interesting question that only the screeners can answer. Do they look at the exif data to 'aid' them in their rejection reasoning?
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That brings an interesting question that only the screeners can answer. Do they look at the exif data to 'aid' them in their rejection reasoning?
My guess is no. Why bother? If it's poor lighting, it's poor lighting.


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Old 05-14-2008, 06:31 PM   #6
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Well, I guess high sun rejection is pretty final. With a wedgie the lighting has to be more or less perfect to get in the db these days unless the subject is rare / unusual; though the high sun in this case, IMO, is borderline.

Turning to the "bad color", the image does have a greenish tint to my eyes.
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My guess is no. Why bother? If it's poor lighting, it's poor lighting.


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Joe's guess is the correct answer as well. EXIF data is only available after the photo is in the database. Plus, no screener would take the time to actually open it up and look just to reject it solely on what time it was taken.
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Joe's guess is the correct answer as well. EXIF data is only available after the photo is in the database. Plus, no screener would take the time to actually open it up and look just to reject it solely on what time it was taken.
Would you be willing to admit that sometimes the screeners make a mistake with the high sun rejection, especially on pics that were taken early morning or evening?
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Would you be willing to admit that sometimes the screeners make a mistake with the high sun rejection, especially on pics that were taken early morning or evening?
Would you be willing to admit that when the screeners make a mistake with high sun, sometimes or usually the shot has harsh or unattractive light?

I find that most of the time at least in the forum, when a "high sun" shot was not taken during true high sun, nonetheless it doesn't have a good appearance. So it's wrong reason, right conclusion, or at least decent conclusion.
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Would you be willing to admit that sometimes the screeners make a mistake with the high sun rejection, especially on pics that were taken early morning or evening?
A lot of times, direct sun on the nose gets hit for high sun. Grrrr!
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Would you be willing to admit that when the screeners make a mistake with high sun, sometimes or usually the shot has harsh or unattractive light?
Of course! I "admit" that all the time when I say that they've made a mistake with their high sun rejection pick. It should simply be stated as "poor lighting" instead of "high sun" which can be misleading for the person who had the photo rejected (which then often leads to a lot of debate in this forum).

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Of course! I "admit" that all the time when I say that they've made a mistake with their high sun rejection pick. It should simply be stated as "poor lighting" instead of "high sun" which can be misleading for the person who had the photo rejected (which then often leads to a lot of debate in this forum).

We certainly agree that the poor lighting set of rejection reasons should be reconstructed. I think they should have a wrong-side lit version also, too much confusion about backlit when there is sun on the nose.
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