Old 06-10-2013, 01:04 AM   #1
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/04/travel...html?hpt=hp_t3

Ridiculous.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:44 AM   #2
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Absolutely. The responsible railfans amongst us I would say are a force for good out there. An extra set of eyes never hurt anything.
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I wonder how many terrorists were arrested and how effective is the program? I wonder if eventually we'll have to register with the government in order to allow us to go railfanning

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As we stand about 1,000 yards from the end of O'Hare Runway 14 Right, the wind blows from the south on this particular day. That means air traffic controllers will be sending departing jets our way. Just seconds after their wheels slip the surly bonds of Earth, brightly painted machines weighing a half-million pounds each will soon be dangling just a few hundred feet above our heads.

"747!" someone shouts.
Jet foamers!!
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Jet foamers!!
Bunch of punks.

We should start a rumble with these clowns, go get ponyboy and sodapop, we'll cut these fools!
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Its sad that they have to wear a vest or risk being hassled. I suppose airports and commercial aircraft are at a greater risk than the trains we watch. Of course, there are less security agencies closely watching trains.

The day I have to wear a safety vest to prevent being hassled by police while railfanning will be my last.
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If you think it's bad getting hassled shooting trains, try airplanes. I loved shooting planes but the post-9/11 security is so ridiculous I quit.

It's always the same situation too. On public property getting grief by some yo-yo cop that has watched too many episodes of Cops and he thinks he's on to something.
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In our terms, that would be the equivalent to "Heritage Unit!"
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In our terms, that would be the equivalent to "Heritage Unit!"
Their heritage units are 727's, 707's, DC8's, DC10's, L1011's and I guess even DC'9 at this point
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Airfans get different treatment than railfans, but as a former reporter I think I know why. Visibility. Airlines carried 800 million passengers last year, Amtrak carried 31 million. Airlines are prominent in the public mind, railroads are all but invisible (unless there's a spectacular wreck).

News media report what they perceive to be important to their readers and viewers. The result:
- A dedicated group of airline photographers are heroes who help law enforcement keep terrorists at bay.
- A dedicated group of railroad photographers who watch thousands of miles of main line are written off as a bunch of choo-choo nuts.

The situation is unfair, but unfortunately I don't see that it's going to change.
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Just like how JP.net gets all the fame and attention, and RP.net gets a glance occasionally.

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What I'm reading lately about government surveillance in the name of anti-terrorism, I don't think anybody is under the radar any more.

The plane fans at O'Hare appear to have some kind of organization - at least they all get bright orange vests. Nothing to say rail photographers couldn't do the same, but what I've read in this forum tells me it ain't going to happen.
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What pisses me off about this is that the cops actually let these people do this. It's okay to take photos of something that can kill a hundred+ when something goes wrong, but God forbid someone takes a photo of a train.
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I'd rather hide up in a tree in a remote area to get my shot of a passing train than advertise to the world with a goofy vest that I have a dorky hobby.

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You mean like this?
That's right, pal!

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I don't understand why people here are so up in arms about this article - plane spotters have gone through the same security crap railfans have - if not worse, since they hang out around, you know, highly secure airports, and planes were the weapon of choice during 9/11 - and fully deserve to be shown some recognition that may lift some of the weight off their back. I think we should be celebrating this sort of article, and using it to fuel our own cause.

That being said, I do take issue with the rather fear-mongering tone of the article, and how it makes it seem like these guys are the last line of defense against the onslaught of terrorists clamoring to set up their missile launchers on the airport perimeter and pick off every plane that flies by.

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The plane fans at O'Hare appear to have some kind of organization - at least they all get bright orange vests. Nothing to say rail photographers couldn't do the same, but what I've read in this forum tells me it ain't going to happen.
FWIW, I never wear a vizzy vest when I'm trackside. I don't want the crew thinking that I may be an employee whose presence they aren't aware of.

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I'd rather hide up in a tree in a remote area to get my shot of a passing train than advertise to the world with a goofy vest that I have a dorky hobby.

Exactly, I sleep better at night knowing im not a douchebag who takes pictures of planes.
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What pisses me off about this is that the cops actually let these people do this. It's okay to take photos of something that can kill a hundred+ when something goes wrong, but God forbid someone takes a photo of a train.
Ask the residents of Graniteville, SC about that...
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Anchorage Int'l is very photographer-friendly...which is awesome if you like cargo heavies:
www.flickr.com/photos/8788895@N05/7674609336/
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That's right, pal!

Jim I recall Nick Benson posted the correct version many moons ago.
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Bunch of punks.

We should start a rumble with these clowns, go get ponyboy and sodapop, we'll cut these fools!
Ya, good idea!

And if that goes well, let's go kick some ass at a comic book convention.

Those people are all built like the "occupiers" and should be an easy victory
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Jim I recall Nick Benson posted the correct version many moons ago.
Wait, what?
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