Old 12-29-2014, 03:12 PM   #1
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Default Hue and Color... I'm at a Loss

Hello,
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...10&key=2827512

I know it's too yellow, but it is a UP train in a late sunset... not sure if that's a reason or what on the color. My WB is always auto, maybe the camera did something wrong?

I'd love some opinions, I reduced the yellow and resubmited it earlier, but the que is pretty big as of right now.


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Old 12-29-2014, 05:26 PM   #2
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Still looks too yellow to me and the pole sticking out of the lead locomotive won't do you any favors either with the screeners.
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:40 PM   #3
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Try putting your WB on "direct sunlight" next time. Its pretty close where it is though.
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:54 PM   #4
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Default Scrap it time!

I tried to dim out the yellow and got the same rejection, but they added in that I have a lot of dead empty space and being undersharpened.

I think I'm about at wits end for this image in its current form. I think I'm going to have to take the original again and try recropping it to make it more of a full shot.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...17&key=2542641

I'll try direct sunlight option next time.

EDIT:
Here's what I'm going with this time around...


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Old 12-29-2014, 08:13 PM   #5
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The first one actually looks a bit underexposed to me. Try brightening it and bumping up the contrast a bit; that may sort out the colour issue on its own. Your second attempt looks very greenish. As for the composition, I like it as-is (minus the pole, but I don't think it's a killer in this case.) I think you went too tight on the left in your final attempt.

Personally, I find that the daylight setting on my camera biases the colour balance too far toward the blue end of the spectrum, and you lose the golden glow of late-evening light.

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Old 12-29-2014, 09:24 PM   #6
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Like that?
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I would love to see a frame where you have both sets of power in the shot.
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To my eye, your latest attempt is far and away the best.

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Old 12-30-2014, 02:15 AM   #9
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To my eye, your latest attempt is far and away the best.

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I second that. Much more pleasing setting to me. Exposure and color look good on my monitor.
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Unfortunately, right when I was getting ready to submit my last attempt...

...they accepted the attempt right before it.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=512187&nseq=0

I don't know if it's even worth submitting the same image twice?

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I would love to see a frame where you have both sets of power in the shot.
This is the only frame I have with the complete power shown on both trains:

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Old 12-30-2014, 04:01 AM   #11
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Unfortunately, right when I was getting ready to submit my last attempt...

...they accepted the attempt right before it.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=512187&nseq=0

I don't know if it's even worth submitting the same image twice?
In the members section, under Photo Administration, you can re-submit an improved version of an existing photo.

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Color looks perfectly fine on the original for that time of day, its very soft though and the the radio antenna sticking up from the unit doesnt help.
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Curious...why didn't you submit an earlier frame that would separate the loco from both the unit in the background and the distracting pole? Seems like you missed a good shot opportunity here.
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Are you asking about positioning or about not submitting the shot that had both units?

My honest answer is that I really thought the shadow cast on the CSX unit with the relay and pole cover ups would shoot it down. I still feel a tad intimidated about what I submit here since I'm newer. I do have a shot right before shadows were cast, but it isn't the best looking... I'll play with it in Photoshop. If it's really good in the end, I might send it in on its own?

I honestly love this spot and will be returning, so don't worry. I am positive I'll have another great shot with a meet from here up here in 2015. Many great spots out here and I'm still very (less than 1 year of having a DSLR) new at photography so we'll see. I just now learned how ISO really works in terms of it recording light information data. Before that I really just thought it was a range of the sensor taking in light... ._.

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Are you asking about positioning or about not submitting the shot that had both units?

My honest answer is that I really thought the shadow cast on the CSX unit with the relay and pole cover ups would shoot it down. I still feel a tad intimidated about what I submit here since I'm newer. I do have a shot right before shadows were cast, but it isn't the best looking... I'll play with it in Photoshop. If it's really good in the end, I might send it in on its own?
I just noticed earlier in this thread that you did indeed catch an earlier frame. I see now what you are referring to with the shadow on the CSX unit. However, it's not bad, IMO, and being able to see those two units adds a little more interest to the scene.

Edit: a crop is definitely needed though:

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