Old 05-18-2011, 06:01 PM   #1
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Any thoughts on this bad cropping reject?

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Old 05-18-2011, 06:58 PM   #2
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my 2 cents: chop off a fair amount top, bottom and right side.
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Too much sky. There is an awful lot of dead space.
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Old 05-20-2011, 05:06 PM   #4
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Give it some noise redux as well.

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Mostly too much sky. If you chop of much (or any) from the bottom or right, I think you'd be going wrong.
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:04 PM   #6
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I don't see how you can crop any of it w/o violating the 1/3 points rule. Looks nearly perfect to my eye. If anything, there should be more space on the left. A great silhouette shot, non the less!
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I don't see how you can crop any of it w/o violating the 1/3 points rule.
see post #2
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Perhaps the screener would prefer to see something more along the lines of this:
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Sure, but you'd lose the context of the shot. It's a picture of four electrics pulling a freight train.
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Sure, but you'd lose the context of the shot. It's a picture of four electrics pulling a freight train.
I think Jim's crop is better, although still, the sky isn't that interesting throughout. In my book the 4th engine doesn't contribute much, it isn't providing much if anything in the way of context, and keeping in it and the railcar hurts in terms of emptiness in the frame. Different tastes.

Also, to me a silhouette is almost by construction focused on the interest in the shape of the silhouetted object and the details shown. Here the engines are far away and are block-shaped, they don't have an interesting presence. My only thought is to crop tight. I can't say I love the attached, but I think I prefer it over the original and over Jim's version.

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Sure, but you'd lose the context of the shot. It's a picture of four electrics pulling a freight train.
Oh, I thought the context of the shot was a "great silhouette." So, one visible hopper constitutes the context of a freight train in this image? To my eyes (which aren't always perfect, mind you), the catenary structures provide a strong framing element for the silhouetted train. But as J mentioned, the sky really isn't that interesting, but with the "framed" crop, it provides a lot less dead space from the original and puts more focus on the silhouetted locomotives.
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Thank you all for your comments, I'm glad my shot stimulated some debate

I agree the sky is pretty boring, but I think the colours of a dawn sky before sunrise help to compensate somewhat.

I'll play around with it some more...

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Oh, I thought the context of the shot was a "great silhouette." So, one visible hopper constitutes the context of a freight train in this image?
Yes. In my opinion, anyway.
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Cutting off the electrics ruins the picture IMHO.
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Yes. In my opinion, anyway.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:52 PM   #16
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I can't see the forest for the trees. I kept in as much of the train as was in the frame, put it along the bottom line in the rule of thirds. What am I missing?

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