Old 06-03-2012, 06:23 PM   #1
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I keep getting nailed with bad color on this one, and am now at a loss. Any suggestions.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...64&key=3629621

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...10&key=6836647

and finally this

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...36&key=8049985

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Old 06-03-2012, 06:50 PM   #2
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First looks to have a yellow cast. Second, too blue. Last one needs more saturation, maybe some contrast work too.

I upped saturation +10 and came up with this. However, I did notice that when I saved your image and loaded it into PSE7 it opened with more color than what your rejection link has. Seems like the image lost some "pop" when uploaded onto RP. Anyways, that's my 2 cents.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:11 PM   #3
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Okay, added some saturation and contrast. We'll see what happens.

I did notice that there is a difference in color after I upload to RP. I don't know what the deal with that is.

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Old 06-03-2012, 07:31 PM   #4
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Still a no go.

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Old 06-03-2012, 08:29 PM   #5
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...19&key=6681557

Now it's horizon unlevel.

Who's got a sharp eye?

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Old 06-03-2012, 08:59 PM   #6
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Maybe just a tiny bit of clockwise rotation (.25 or so?) - try it and see. The signal mast and telephone pole on the right look vertical....maybe the track itself is unlevel.

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Old 06-03-2012, 09:53 PM   #7
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Fixed level. Now it's overexposed.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...33&key=4173873

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Old 06-03-2012, 10:10 PM   #8
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I thought this was kind of a cool shot. But, I guess it's crap.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...59&key=4258527

It's done.

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Old 06-03-2012, 11:11 PM   #9
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I thought this was kind of a cool shot. But, I guess it's crap.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...59&key=4258527
Well, they're valid reasons, but also easily -- I mean EASILY -- fixable.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:35 PM   #10
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man, I hate the rejection-go-round. Nice shot though.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:13 AM   #11
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Well, they're valid reasons, but also easily -- I mean EASILY -- fixable.
Easy for you to say. When I have a color problem, I have a COLOR problem. Maybe my eyes are messed up from getting up at 3:00 AM to get there. Drinking a little might help that some. Don't drink and not sleep at the same time, funny things happen.

Like, I was trying to get this guy into my train scene, but every time the train showed up he would disappear.



Anyhow, this is how I remember the scene. How, would you suggest fixing it?



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Anyhow, this is how I remember the scene. How, would you suggest fixing it?
The ballast seems to have green in it (other than weeds). In general it looks weird, can't place it. Anyway, I did a Remove Color Cast using a white stripe near the left edge and got this. I think most of it looks a lot better, but the sky may be too bluish. The sand at the bottom of the steps is better also.
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Great vulture shot, BTW. I was considerably less successful in getting wildlife today.

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Great vulture shot, BTW. I was considerably less successful in getting wildlife today.
Is that the great blue heron? Nice big birds.

Actually, I think they're eagles. Here's another one. I captured a bunch of them, but not when the trains appeared. There were even seven of them sitting on the tracks. By the time I made a u turn, and came back to get a picture, they took off. They don't seem to like the trains.



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The ballast seems to have green in it (other than weeds). In general it looks weird, can't place it. Anyway, I did a Remove Color Cast using a white stripe near the left edge and got this. I think most of it looks a lot better, but the sky may be too bluish. The sand at the bottom of the steps is better also.
The sky is what I think is giving me the problems. It was real early and quite cold. I thing what caught my attention is at how blue the clouds were. It was real weird. I figured RP wanted the clouds white as that's probably how we are used to seeing them. So in my attempt to make the clouds grey or white, it seems to throw everything else off. I'll sit on it for a while till I catch up on some sleep and my eyes become normal again.

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I see now that my version is like the first reject, and the second looks familiar too. I think the color overall just looks odd and I can't put my finger on why. Sorry.

Yes, a great blue, one of my favorite birds. Really wish I had been able to capture it better. I was not with tripod and I went with the 55-250 IS (IS and also a bit more reach) over the sharper 70-200 /4. But it wasn't well lit so I wouldn't have gotten a really nice shot anyway. As it is, still the best heron shot I have ever gotten. Outside of a wildlife photo charter of sorts, a guided outing to a regional park oriented toward birds where I got to use a 400 f/2.8 and extended, which was fun.
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J, embrace the paperclip.

Chris, the sun reflection on half of the "nose" of the long hood isn't doing you any favors. It's so prominent that it becomes a distraction. I'm afraid there is not much you can do about that.
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Chris, the second bird is obviously an eagle but the first looks like a turkey vulture to me, and I am looking at a guidebook. The color and shape of the red head and the beak is the tipoff for me, but I am not a bird person and that is a bad angle and partial obstruction of the head.
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OK, I guess I am not getting my embedded attachments right. How do I use the paperclip? I am doing the awkward combo of a) uploading the attachment, b) opening the attachment in a new window to get the url, c) using the Insert Image icon to get the image to appear in the post.
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Chris, the sun reflection on half of the "nose" of the long hood isn't doing you any favors. It's so prominent that it becomes a distraction. I'm afraid there is not much you can do about that.
Okay Jim, you're saying the hood end is a distraction? Does this look any better? I thought it was a bonus in that I also got a glint in there.



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That's much better! Not only were you getting too much glint, but the glint was shifting the color to purple.
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I was getting this one ready for submission, and would like some opinions.



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too soft. look at the original. look at the DME.
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I see that Hatchetman. Some how the original got compressed during an upload to the forum as the file got smaller.

Here is the same file I uploaded to RP last night and the problem is the same. Bad color. The rejection is so vague, and I really wish I knew what direction I need to take this picture for RP standards. If I knew what they want then I can fix it. In the mean time I am clueless.

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To my eyes, the color temperature looks too low (i.e., too blue), and the hue slider is possibly a bit too far on the green side.
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