Old 11-26-2009, 05:29 PM   #1
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I'm not exactly sure what is wrong with this shot, anyone have any recomendations? http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=433414097
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:42 PM   #2
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I think the train is just a bit too far away, in my opinion. I might have tried to do a telephoto of him exiting the tunnel from where you were standing. Hopefully some other members will throw their 0.2 cents worth in.

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Old 11-26-2009, 05:51 PM   #3
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I just uploaded a similar shot, but the train is still in the tunnel and i moved so its in the dead center of the photo with the 2 red signals on the side. Have to see how that does
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Hmm, it could receive the bad composition if the subject is dead center. Let us know the results!

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Old 11-26-2009, 06:58 PM   #5
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bad esthetic quality... http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=766439222 guess i'm back to my usual results, nothing but rejections.
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:11 PM   #6
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bad esthetic quality... http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=766439222 guess i'm back to my usual results, nothing but rejections.
Aside from any other issues with this shot, they may have an issue with where you were standing. Just a thought.
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Agree with GMEMD, but also I don't much care for either version of the shot. Two signals pushed up against the very edges of the shot, a distant, distant headlight, and a whole bunch of empty in between.
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Hmm, indeed, I'm thinking the PEQ is a result of you standing inbetween the rails. Either way, I do agree with Janusz in that there is a decent bit of dead space that kind of takes away from the photo.

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hmm, well i'll remember that for the future, what about a close shot of the tunnel with the lights? Also i was standing on a platform in between the tracks, not the ballast and was out of the middle with plenty of time to spare.
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hmm, well i'll remember that for the future, what about a close shot of the tunnel with the lights? Also i was standing on a platform in between the tracks, not the ballast and was out of the middle with plenty of time to spare.
I think the headlights with the tunnel maybe end up with some pleasing results, if composed correctly.

Any image that appears that you may have been trespassing, I would suggest informing the screeners that you were not, as it seems you'll generally get the PEQ.

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Old 11-27-2009, 01:57 AM   #11
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well here is one shot like that, this is right from the camera with no editing other than reducing the size to attach. i have 2 others like this aswell. What would you suggest doing?
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well here is one shot like that, this is right from the camera with no editing other than reducing the size to attach. i have 2 others like this aswell. What would you suggest doing?
No matter what you do to the shot, the fact is you were in between two active tracks, so it's a PEQ every time. Even though you said you moved in plenty of time, the crew could probably see you scrambling back over to the platform and RP doesn't need to promote that type of behavior. The point is, RP doesn't want to be responsible if someone tries copying this shot and doesn't get out of the way in time, slips while crossing back over, or gets their foot caught between the platform and rail.

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to throw something out there, i didn't scamble back across. I just casually walked back across. Both of those tracks had a red signal (yes a train could still come) i had another person watching my back aswell. I'm a smart railfan. I guess i'll just drop the tunnel idea.
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to throw something out there, i didn't scamble back across. I just casually walked back across. Both of those tracks had a red signal (yes a train could still come) i had another person watching my back aswell. I'm a smart railfan. I guess i'll just drop the tunnel idea.
Don't drop the tunnel idea necessarily, just simply try that similar composition without trespassing. I think standing closer to the tunnel would be a good idea as well. Perhaps walk up towards the tunnel, but stand just left to the ballast. I wouldn't think that would be trespassing.

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Old 11-27-2009, 08:28 PM   #15
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now this rejection confuses me. An old dash 8 in conrail paint, rejected because it was cloudy and the usual common power thing. This isn't common power in my opinion especially since its conrail, take a look http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=755733&key=0
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now this rejection confuses me. An old dash 8 in conrail paint, rejected because it was cloudy and the usual common power thing. This isn't common power in my opinion especially since its conrail, take a look http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=755733&key=0
Nice catch but its just a roster shot of which there is a well-lit one in the database already:
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Do you have any that show the train behind it or something other than just the engine on a cloudy day?
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Don't drop the tunnel idea necessarily, just simply try that similar composition without trespassing. I think standing closer to the tunnel would be a good idea as well. Perhaps walk up towards the tunnel, but stand just left to the ballast. I wouldn't think that would be trespassing.

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i have a few other pictures showing more of the train behind it, but its still cloudy would it be worth uploading? Now this one, http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=755739&key=0 The cloudy part completely baffles me, its snowing ofcourse its going to be cloudy. I have another shot of the same engine in heavier snow with just the nose showing would that be any good?
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I actually like both of your tunel shots. I don't quite understand the bad esthetic quality reject. Nice work.
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The signals do not work in your images. They are just too far apart and to close to the edges. Also, the one signal has a distracting sign in front of it. Should have went down the tracks and focused on the train and tunnel.
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=594466775 i can take care of the unlevel horizon, but what do you all suggest for the contrast, higher or lower? I'm thinking a bit lower. http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=756146&key=0 This one for bad image quality, i dont see the issue
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No matter what you do to the shot, the fact is you were in between two active tracks, so it's a PEQ every time. Even though you said you moved in plenty of time, the crew could probably see you scrambling back over to the platform and RP doesn't need to promote that type of behavior. The point is, RP doesn't want to be responsible if someone tries copying this shot and doesn't get out of the way in time, slips while crossing back over, or gets their foot caught between the platform and rail.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=594466775 i can take care of the unlevel horizon, but what do you all suggest for the contrast, higher or lower? I'm thinking a bit lower. http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=756146&key=0 This one for bad image quality, i dont see the issue
Take a look at what gets accepted. That's the best advice. Take a look at similar angles in the database and pay close attention to the contrast and exposure of the images.

The second image, you shouldn't of cut off the train. I find that distracting myself, but I could very well be the only one who thinks that. I don't notice the bad quality, but I do notice the image is unlevel. I'm not certain what post processing software you're using, but try leveling the images.

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well, now that i'm home i'm going to really sort through my pictures, there has got to be something that RP will accept, i'm desperate, i took hundreds of pictures and there has to be soemthing, maybe a shot of all conrail engines on an NS coal drag (cloudy..) i dont know, hopefully i can get something on. I'm becoming quite frustrated as you could imagine. Its also depressing too
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I think you've got some great pictures Keane. I also think you probably could use practice with processing. I hope you don't mind me reworking one of your shots, but I think it has great potential. If you can work it to look somewhat like this then I think you should be able to get into the data base.

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