Old 01-04-2008, 01:53 AM   #1
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I got this one rejected for bad angle -

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Old 01-04-2008, 02:02 AM   #2
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It also looks to have jaggies, what resolution was it saved at? For the angle well I would have shot the locomotive a little sooner, also the dumpster is distracting.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:33 AM   #3
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Maybe it is just me, but this photo looks a tad oversharpened.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:38 AM   #4
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It also looks to have jaggies, what resolution was it saved at? For the angle well I would have shot the locomotive a little sooner, also the dumpster is distracting.
I agree with Walter. Moving down the tracks to the left might have excluded the dumpster. Of course we don't know what else would have been exposed.

Watching for dumpster-type details has been one of my downfalls. When a zillion tons of train are blowing by it's easy to overlook the background. (Reminds me of draining swamps and alligators! )
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I'm a little surprised it got Bad Angle. I guess it's the generic power (at least I think GEVOs are a dime a dozen) where the train takes up most of the frame. I could see it getting in, but I also think the shot is leaning just a little to the left judging from the power poles to the right of the train and the train itself, which could be on a bank.

Someone else mentined the jaggies and I'll have to with hold comment on that with this monitor. Do you have another exposure of this one with a looser crop and the train in front of the dumpster?


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There is some sort of vegetation on the pilot, but the angle is bad for getting a good view of it, more head on would have been better.

Otherwise, looks like the shot is going for foreground flowers, but doesn't succeed. Agree with Walter. The way the shot looks, it is basically a 3/4 wedge roster shot, but with distracting surroundings.
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:02 AM   #7
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Forgot to mention - outside of curve shots when shot at track level, one desirable thing is to catch the train much earlier so that the power is not blocking the trailing cars so one gets the entire train. Note how even the second unit here is greatly de-emphasized by being curved away, giving it a strong feel of roster shot.

The following is not the greatest example (a perusal of my shots has just revealed that I don't take many mid-curve shots!) but you can see the cars trailing.

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Here's one I just grabbed from the database. The engine could have come around the curve further and one would see some of the side.

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I think they just hit the wrong button. I say it is over sharpened. How did the plants get on the grill of the train?
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Janusz is correct, you need to show more of the train. The only thing you can see is the two locos, which more or less turns it into a roster shot.

I am no expert on US locos but I would imagine these are pretty common so the angle etc. would have to be perfect. Also agree with alsthom in that it does look oversharpened as well.
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Forgot to mention - outside of curve shots when shot at track level, one desirable thing is to catch the train much earlier so that the power is not blocking the trailing cars so one gets the entire train.
True, but sometimes they do work:

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I think if you're going to go for that angle, you need to get a little different angle on the curve to include more of the train back of it. I WOULD have gotten a shot earlier with the train in the background on the right as you suggest, but there is an ugly utility tower on the inside of the curve that I was able to hide behind the train by getting low enough.
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I think if you're going to go for that angle, you need to get a little different angle on the curve to include more of the train back of it.
Exactly.....
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Thanks for all the comments. I see what you mean now. I don't have any other decent shots of that train. I'll have to go back to the same location and try it again sometime. The picture is a bit oversharpened. I used to get a lot of rejects for undersharpened. So anymore I've been a bit excessive with the sharpening. Thanks again.
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Reviving an old thread (not TOO old) but I just spotted a nice outside of the curve shot and wanted to share

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Dang, J...I thought you would've used this one from yesterday!

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Grand Forks railroading, so, so, so...

YAWN!!!!!!!!!

Just kidding, nice shot, didn't see it.
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Dang, J...I thought you would've used this one from yesterday!

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Nice one, Chris!

And then there's always this one...

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