Old 02-13-2011, 10:04 PM   #1
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Constructive criticisms please!

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How could this be better cropped?

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The colour looks fine to me. And yes my monitor is properly calibrated.

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Ok, so the guy doesn't like it. I do, and that's what hurts!

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Old 02-13-2011, 10:21 PM   #2
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In the first one, the scene is just awkwardly framed and the train is almost going away.

In the second one, I think because of the absence of the typical green grass color everything merges into that yellow color of the nose. Ultimately, it is lacking any large and vibrant color contrast.

In the third one, most likely rejected because it looks like you are standing on the tracks. This prompts the issue of trespassing, which RP frowns upon.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:47 PM   #3
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Constructive criticisms please!

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How could this be better cropped?
Probably something more like this:
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:48 PM   #4
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1st one I agree with CN Railfan, though I do like it as is.

2nd one maybe add some more contrast and see what they say.

3rd one looks like trespassing, hence PEQ
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:16 PM   #5
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...9&key=39879158
How could this be better cropped?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1071051224
The colour looks fine to me. And yes my monitor is properly calibrated.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=295072668
Ok, so the guy doesn't like it. I do, and that's what hurts!

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In the first one, the scene is just awkwardly framed and the train is almost going away.
And what if it was going away - there are quite a few going away shots, especially on bridges, on RP. Still, it is a bit awkward. I'm picturing a frame around the image and it suddenly looks tight on the top. Showing more sky may help it there's enough to carry interest up there. Otherwise, you could attempt a crop like Jim suggests. It's "against" RP policy but that didn't stop one from slipping through last week.


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In the second one, I think because of the absence of the typical green grass color everything merges into that yellow color of the nose. Ultimately, it is lacking any large and vibrant color contrast.
I like it as is, though possibly, as suggested some increase in contrast may help. It is a tad muted. Maybe some additional sharpening, too?

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In the third one, most likely rejected because it looks like you are standing on the tracks. This prompts the issue of trespassing, which RP frowns upon.
If only such a specific rejection were to exist on RP, it would save both the screener (via appeal) and the poster a lot of headaches. On the other hand, it appears to be a tourist line and I imagine they had no issue with you shooting where you were during this move. So without confirmation of the trespass issue, it's hard to say. Maybe the screener thought too much was going on and not enough was visible. Interesting scene with interesting light but hard to view. If instead the engine was prominent rather then the last car, it may have worked better.

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These forums are interesting in that sometimes there is no clear consensus on what to do to make a shot better. My take on the first one is that there is too much sky, or maybe just too much ueresting sky. I like the river and want to see more of that. (If not more in the literal sense, then by cropping off some sky so the river is "more" of the frame.) I also wonder if the train should not be closer to the right side of the frame. Do you have a later exposure? I will say I think this is certainly one to keep working on.

I like the second one a lot, but I'm seeing a yellow cast over the entire frame. Tweak the color and it's in!

Not a fan of the third one as it is a going away shot and I can't tell from looking at the picture what the dude on the right is doing.

Still, just like the man said, two out of three ain't bad.
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Its a dead horse, but there are plenty of examples on RP of this not being a legit rejection reason.
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I personally have had a problem with those trying to tell us to turn railroad photography into an "art form." It's fine for them to do so, I welcome it in fact, but what I do have a problem with is that the practitioners of the more "arty" shots, I have found, tend to look down their nose's at others who are shooting more "mundane" shots.
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Otherwise, you could attempt a crop like Jim suggests. It's "against" RP policy but that didn't stop one from slipping through last week.
You mean train in the middle of the frame? It was a quick, free-hand crop in my jpg viewer and was only meant to give a suggestion to what the screeners might be looking for. My main focus was on the bottom and right side, but with a more accurate crop in a 2:3 format taking a little more off the right, he may be able to come down at the top a little, moving the train a little higher in the frame. I think the river creates a strong lead in line, hence the crop with it coming out of the bottom left corner.

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My main focus was on the bottom and right side, but with a more accurate crop in a 2:3 format taking a little more off the right, he may be able to come down at the top a little, moving the train a little higher in the frame. I think the river creates a strong lead in line, hence the crop with it coming out of the bottom left corner.

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Hey, I even used the plug-in from that handy link you provided earlier. (however, if it were my pic I was editing, I'd work on the contrast a little better...but I DO like the way it brings the color out, especially in the sky).
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In shot 2 colors look good to me but what got you is the photo is to light, Just darken it a tad (to much shadow lighting I think) and I think it will get in add a bit of sharpens to.
Shot 3 wont get in not that it's not a good shot but back lit and going away, If it was later in the day and sun lower with the steam picking up some late day color it would be stunning!
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