11-28-2010, 04:34 PM
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Backlit on Glint light.
We've all tried out that glint light shot, where the subject being backlit is acceptable...
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But mine was rejected: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=880530&key=0
Any Thoughts?
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11-28-2010, 04:38 PM
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The light is weak as is the colors= making just a backlit photo.
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11-28-2010, 05:47 PM
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Agreed, weak colors.
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I personally have had a problem with those trying to tell us to turn railroad photography into an "art form." It's fine for them to do so, I welcome it in fact, but what I do have a problem with is that the practitioners of the more "arty" shots, I have found, tend to look down their nose's at others who are shooting more "mundane" shots.
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11-28-2010, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Soo 6060
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Darks need to be darker (especially the nose) for better contrast, and the saturation boosted for better color.
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11-28-2010, 06:46 PM
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I think that may be fixable in post.
HINT: 99% of these glint shots you see on RP are insanely processed to get the colors and contrast right.
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11-28-2010, 07:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troy12n
I think that may be fixable in post.
HINT: 99% of these glint shots you see on RP are insanely processed to get the colors and contrast right.
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I'll spend a bit of time on it...
Thanks!
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11-28-2010, 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troy12n
I think that may be fixable in post.
HINT: 99% of these glint shots you see on RP are insanely processed to get the colors and contrast right.
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Then I guess this one was in the 1%. I didn't do much at all to it.
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everytime i see non-train photos of yours i think, "so much talent. wasted on trains."
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11-28-2010, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by crazytiger
Then I guess this one was in the 1%. I didn't do much at all to it.
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I can tell. The colors are weak and to red, contrast is a bit low. Try reworking it can be better
Last edited by milwman; 11-28-2010 at 11:27 PM.
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11-29-2010, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by crazytiger
Then I guess this one was in the 1%. I didn't do much at all to it.
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There's more interest in the accepted glint. The going away angle works pretty well, especially since the space the train is 'going too' has some pretty insane moody effects with the haze and light working together. The rejected shot in question needs a bit more work. Like above said, some insane processing needs to be done to create that effect on some shots. Others sometimes just don't need too much processing.
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11-29-2010, 12:30 AM
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Good point. I'll try and rework it.
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Quote:
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everytime i see non-train photos of yours i think, "so much talent. wasted on trains."
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11-29-2010, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by crazytiger
Good point. I'll try and rework it.
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I really wouldn't touch it, at least much. The only thing I can see you doing to it is adding a bit more color, otherwise it's an exceptional shot. Well done.
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11-29-2010, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by asis80
I really wouldn't touch it, at least much. The only thing I can see you doing to it is adding a bit more color, otherwise it's an exceptional shot. Well done.
Ben
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Yeah it is nice and he doesn't need to fix it. Just thinking a bit more yellow and more contrast may help to make a great photo?
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11-29-2010, 01:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soo 6060
We've all tried out that glint light shot, where the subject being backlit is acceptable...
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But mine was rejected: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=880530&key=0
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Others have covered this well, but definitely need to rework the colors and contrast. Your shot lacks real dramatic interest, but instead, just looks like a backlit photo. I see some potential.
Chase
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11-29-2010, 01:58 AM
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This is what I have now (attatched)
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11-29-2010, 02:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soo 6060
This is what I have now (attatched)
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Compare that to what you posted in thumbnail form above and tell me if you think yours looks anything like the accepted versions.
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11-29-2010, 02:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soo 6060
This is what I have now (attatched)
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I hope that's a joke
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11-29-2010, 02:05 AM
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Hmmmm... yeah that one is far too over saturated.
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11-29-2010, 02:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soo 6060
This is what I have now (attatched)
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My eyes literally hurt. Not trying to be harsh there, just telling you the truth. Way too much brother, way too much.
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11-29-2010, 02:12 AM
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Here is a 2 minute job that I think is closer to where you need to be
Last edited by troy12n; 12-19-2010 at 08:35 PM.
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11-29-2010, 06:14 AM
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Troy's is much better. Still a little yellow for my tastes, but very close.
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11-29-2010, 06:17 AM
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Troy's looks better but like Chris said, still too yellow.
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11-29-2010, 09:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troy12n
I hope that's a joke
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Sorry, just wasn't sure. First attempt at a glint shot..LOL
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11-29-2010, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cblaz
Troy's is much better. Still a little yellow for my tastes, but very close.
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I just looked at this from work, and it looks nothing like what it does on my laptop, I don't know if my laptop's monitor is off or the one here is.
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11-29-2010, 10:13 PM
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Alright, I started with my original and tried to match it best to Troy's. (Thank you, so much!) It's in the queue now, I'll get back here with the results.
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