06-28-2017, 08:38 PM
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Yes, it's cloudy.... but it's an ex-SP SD9 in original paint...
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...59&key=8997350
I took this picture 3 months ago. Rejected for cloudy lighting...
First off, cloudy weather is the norm in spring in the Willamette River Valley.
Secondly.... that's nothing like standard power, it's an ex-SP SD9 in original paint...
Perhaps it could use some sharpening, but...
What do you think?
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Last edited by spacetrain1983; 06-28-2017 at 08:43 PM.
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06-28-2017, 08:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spacetrain1983
First off, cloudy weather is the norm in spring in the Willamette River Valley.
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Well you'd better complain to Mother Nature about that then.
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Secondly.... that's nothing like standard power, it's an ex-SP SD9 in original paint...
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Perhaps you missed this part of the rejection:
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...as well as cloudy images of common/standard angles and scenes, are generally not accepted.
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06-29-2017, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spacetrain1983
What do you think?
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Brutal honesty. I think the photographer missed the shot. I believe this because I had to do a dark shift to 21 or 22 in photoshop to make the darks right. You were hotter than a two dollar pistol (RIP Possum).
Had you have been a stop (or more) lower, it might have it been usable.
Did you take additional shots and vary the exposure on them? One of those might be usable if so.
Loyd L.
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06-29-2017, 04:12 AM
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Why ISO 80 on such a dreary day?
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06-29-2017, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by miningcamper1
Why ISO 80 on such a dreary day?
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I think going way back he noted he had an auto camera with little controls??? To move forward.....
Bob
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06-29-2017, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RobJor
I think going way back he noted he had an auto camera with little controls??? To move forward.....
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Nikon L340. Nikon states a range of ISO 80-1600 with a smorgasbord of modes and exposure compensation of -2.0 to +2.0 EV in steps of 1/3 EV. It even does HD video. Sounds like the camera doesn't make all the decisions unless you allow it to.
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07-01-2017, 09:12 PM
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A dude with a camera
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Perhaps it's rare power, but it's not power that can't be shot pretty often I suspect with better control of the camera. I also suspect you should have used the even lighting to get more of a broadside of the unit. Use the chance to show something that might not get shot so much instead of a typical 3/4 wedgie. I suspect typical 3/4 wedgies with cloudy weather don't get in so much. You can't control the weather, as you noted, but you can make better decisions when shooting in that type of weather.
Last edited by Joe the Photog; 07-01-2017 at 09:16 PM.
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07-01-2017, 09:43 PM
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If it can be shot every day it's common power. Yes, it's damn rare except for that one place but that one place exists and it runs there every day. Been to many a place in my life that I shot something I'd only see that one time but I got dreary weather. Still fun to go and see it, but won't get on this site.
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07-02-2017, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Freericks
If it can be shot every day it's common power.
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 Seriously, how many engines can't be shot every day?
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07-02-2017, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by miningcamper1
 Seriously, how many engines can't be shot every day?
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Exactly my point - which is why every cloudy in comment complaint that goes on to say, but it's a rare engine, is pointless.
The, "this is a brand new unit and it was wrecked moments after I shot it comment," would apply as truly rare.
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07-02-2017, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freericks
Exactly my point - which is why every cloudy in comment complaint that goes on to say, but it's a rare engine, is pointless.
The, "this is a brand new unit and it was wrecked moments after I shot it comment," would apply as truly rare.
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Maybe they ought to drop the "common power" wording in favor of Cloudy (mundane) or Cloudy (meh).
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07-02-2017, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by miningcamper1
Maybe they ought to drop the "common power" wording in favor of Cloudy (mundane) or Cloudy (meh). 
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I think cloudy/common is good phrasing and simply recognizes a tradeeff. It is only the definition of common that can confuse; common is more than just an ES44, it is any engine in an environment that it can be seen frequently or daily.
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07-03-2017, 03:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miningcamper1
Maybe they ought to drop the "common power" wording in favor of Cloudy (mundane) or Cloudy (meh). 
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It's poorly worded - would be better to say "images that can be obtained under sunny conditions."
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07-03-2017, 09:05 PM
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Really needs a "you screwed up" rejection
Loyd L.
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07-04-2017, 01:37 AM
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A dude with a camera
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbassloyd
Really needs a "you screwed up" rejection
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True. Or a "If at first you don't succeed..." rejection.
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