Old 11-01-2020, 07:42 PM   #1
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Brilliant colors, wonderful atmosphere, real masterpiece:

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Same spot, same lighting conditions, just one day later:

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I'm afraid I couldn't find the right setting on my machine ... Would anyone help?
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Well, that's interesting.....and disappointing. Even mildly aggressive processing will generally make fall foliage look more brilliant than it really was, but in this case, it doesn't look as if the base color was even there. When I posted the comment that I did, I was truly impressed that he was able to find a grove of consistently red trees. I have never personally seen anything like that. I live in New England and we have trees that turn all manner of colors, but not often simultaneously, and you virtually never see all red like this.

If it's not real, I am disappointed. We probably need another site to showcase Photoshop art. Those of us who take photographs just can't compete with it.
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Old 11-02-2020, 04:01 AM   #3
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Very interesting...
I applied most of the tweaks that I usually do to enhance fall foliage: contrast, gamma, saturation, Windows "clarity". Moving the red slider right had the most effect.
But notice that the green leaves remained green! So if the dates are correct, how could those green leaves have been red the day before? I'll leave it to others to speculate.
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Old 11-02-2020, 05:40 AM   #5
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In reality, the view is disturbed by a signal bar:

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this has been deleted on the modified image from here:

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(The picture of Tamás Rizsavi was taken before 2 pm on October 31, 2020, I took the pictures on November 1, 2020 around 12 noon. It was cloudy and overcast on both days.)
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Makes you wonder how much of this one is real and not fabricated. Also, I'm not a fan of a link to his facebook page as a watermark, but that's just me.
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Old 11-02-2020, 08:45 PM   #7
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I would expect an 'artist' to do a better job of cloning out a signpost..

Seems like fake Fall color is the hot theme for 2020..

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I would expect an 'artist' to do a better job of cloning out a signpost..

Seems like fake Fall color is the hot theme for 2020..

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I'm wondering why he felt the need to remove the signpost. Yes, it was in the scene, but it did not obstruct the view of the train. It also doesn't have any text on the side from which he was shooting, so there would be no issues with out-of-focus text.

As I noted above, even relatively non-aggressive processing makes muted fall foliage look brighter than it really was. I was just editing some stuff from a recent charter on a steam operation in Maine last night, and the colors look rather pretty.....but I know they were more muted in reality. It was not my intention to "juice" those pictures at all. Far from it, my goal was to make them look as real is possible. I see the image under discussion as a somewhat different story. Based on the images that have been submitted for comparison, it looks like a pretty inaccurate representation of reality.
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Old 11-03-2020, 09:28 AM   #9
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Screenshot of a video posted on his Facebook page that was recorded at another point on the line in mid-October:

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As seen during this period, the fall colors didn’t really appear in the woods.

He posted a picture on Facebook that he took at the same place where the video was made, on the same day:

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The color change did not become perfect around the wagons, otherwise a nice job, but it has nothing to do with reality.

I don’t think there’s a problem with that on Facebook or Instagram, I’ve just shown these images as examples.

I knew, however, that such modifications were not permitted here.

(Of course, we can call this site as FakeRailpictures.net (the best fake railroad photos on the net). Come on, guys: naked girls waving at the train, steam locomotives crashing on the viaduct, the possibilities are endless...)
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(Of course, we can call this site as FakeRailpictures.net (the best fake railroad photos on the net). Come on, guys: naked girls waving at the train, steam locomotives crashing on the viaduct, the possibilities are endless...)
Is there a secret access point for the naked girls waving at the train photos?
Asking for a friend.
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Is there a secret access point for the naked girls waving at the train photos?
Asking for a friend.
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Next to one of the most beautiful railway lines in Hungary is a nudist beach and campsite. This year, I went on a steam train there and saw many naked women (and men) waving enthusiastically towards our train. Unfortunately, I was so surprised that by the time I could take a picture, we were moving on. Maybe next time...
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Wow. Well, this is certainly a legitimate call out. And here I am getting annoyed that my photos uploaded to facebook get extra juice from the FB algorithms.
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I always thought "F8 and be there" meant to actually be THERE to get the shot.

Seems today, the meaning has changed, and now refers to where you should be AFTER you take the shot - in front of the screen in Photoshop.

Should anyone ever bother getting a pan shot the "old fashioned" way?

A PC and SC - if anything, it should've got an EC since it was in fact, all about the Edit.

Not that it's not a great (fantasy) edit - it certainly is. Fake Shelby Mustangs are cool too, depending on the venue.

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Fake Shelby Mustangs are cool too, depending on the venue.

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And you wouldn't want to shell out big bucks for a pseudo Shelby Mustang under the pretense that it's a legit Shelby Mustang.
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Apparently, I need to seriously push the Saturation and Vibrance sliders to the right on these....maybe dial in a red color cast. They just don't measure up.

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Old 11-10-2020, 04:04 PM   #16
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Between extreme color changes and adding trees, skies, etc., maybe RP needs a better way to report these altered images. That said, some images I took at Goose Lake in the fall are pretty red, but they were shot on Kodachrome 200, which really pushed the reds. Wish I would have had a better lens at the time!
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Unfortunately, we will have fewer and fewer opportunities to detect such counterfeits.

In this case, it helps that many people take shots of this railway line, especially when a steam locomotive is running.

Recorded on October 16, 2020:

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On October 18, 2020, the forest looked like this:

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He completely discolored the image and even reversed the position of the sun for a more beneficial effect. I think it could be the new POTW!
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Hmm...

Same Sun?

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Remember this one?

Thoughts now... On the reflection?
Interesting handrail shadows on the backlit nose, no?

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Both images were taken on the same section of line, one just after the tunnel and the other 100 meters from there.

Below is the position of the Sun at this time of year (using suncalc.net):

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The artist placed a new Sun in the sky in both cases. (I don't know if he used the same one.)
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Do You remember the fake Moon guy?

http://forums.railpictures.net/showthread.php?t=11369
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Well, he's got another PCA this week. Fake it 'til you make it, I guess....

Based on the thread that GBR attached, the creator of these works has been doing this for over a decade. As noted previously, I have no objection to "Photoshop Art" per se. I just think that it should be displayed in a separate category, so there is a clear separation between it and documentary photography. The sad part about this is that from now on, anytime I see something that looks spectacular from the likes of KB, DD or TS, my first reaction will be that it's a "PhotoShop Fake." The really sad part is that folks who are just casual viewers of the site won't realize this and reward these types of efforts with heavy view-counts, favorites, comments laden with praise and PCAs, because they THINK they're looking at a legitimate photograph.
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Well, he's got another PCA this week. Fake it 'til you make it, I guess....

Based on the thread that GBR attached, the creator of these works has been doing this for over a decade. As noted previously, I have no objection to "Photoshop Art" per se. I just think that it should be displayed in a separate category, so there is a clear separation between it and documentary photography. The sad part about this is that from now on, anytime I see something that looks spectacular from the likes of KB, DD or TS, my first reaction will be that it's a "PhotoShop Fake." The really sad part is that folks who are just casual viewers of the site won't realize this and reward these types of efforts with heavy view-counts, favorites, comments laden with praise and PCAs, because they THINK they're looking at a legitimate photograph.
Not to mention the other PCA for this week.
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The artist placed a new Sun in the sky in both cases. (I don't know if he used the same one.)
Question for me is, why would anyone want to add an obnoxious, distracting fake sun like that?
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Remember this one?

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That appears to be the result of a flash or some other type of artificial lighting.
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