Old 04-03-2011, 09:58 PM   #1
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I am not sure which way to go with this contrast rejection. Is there too much, or not enough? Thank you!
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:30 PM   #2
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Looks like a bit too much, but I'd wait for others to opine.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:17 AM   #3
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While we are at it, is this shot really undersharpened? It looks fine to me.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:51 AM   #4
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The first shot needs something. It needs to have more pop, more color. I'm still not sure it get on due to cloudy/common. Nice shot, though.

The second one might could use some sharpening; it's hard to tell. If you feel strongly enough about it, appeal.
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I played around with the color, and I think it looks much more realistic now. What do you think?

While we are at it, does the other attached shot stand a chance, or is the stoplight too distracting? I really wish I could have gotten a better shot, but bad stoplights and baseball fans prevented me from getting to a better vantage point. If this doesn't work, I think I could go vertical and make it work, but I personally like this angle better.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:46 PM   #6
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I think maybe I gave you bad advice on the first one. That loco is still not "popping" as Joe said.

Second one need spot sharpening on the front of the loco. Look at the headlights...they should be sharper for sure.

Third one I don't see anything yet. What is the subject/story?
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While we are at it, does the other attached shot stand a chance, or is the stoplight too distracting? I really wish I could have gotten a better shot, but bad stoplights and baseball fans prevented me from getting to a better vantage point. If this doesn't work, I think I could go vertical and make it work, but I personally like this angle better.
This is just a jumbled mess of a scene. People randomly walking in different directions, lots of clutter and the arch randomly popping up above the train.
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Less contrast, more saturation.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:57 PM   #9
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Oh my god! I'm just going to stick to plain average wedgies, because apparently I can't do anything else! What's wrong? Too much on top? I have not the slightest clue.
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Old 04-04-2011, 09:08 PM   #10
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Oh my god! I'm just going to stick to plain average wedgies, because apparently I can't do anything else! What's wrong? Too much on top? I have not the slightest clue.
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Oh, shut up.



You're taking it way too seriously. You've got the train way too far down in the frame resulting in entirely too much sky.
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Old 04-04-2011, 09:18 PM   #11
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To add to what Joe said, that last shot looks like it needs some CCW rotation.
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Oh, shut up.



You're taking it way too seriously. You've got the train way too far down in the frame resulting in entirely too much sky.
Your right! I need to take a break and slow down! I have a few shots at this location and I really like them, but I see I will need to crop them a bit. My goal was to get the tree in the shot, but should I crop down a bit and loose some of the top of the tree?

Train-a-mania: I will try to level it, but I'm no Jim Thais! I am terrible at leveling!

My main goal is not to make the screeners mad. I don't upload that much, but I still want to keep my acceptance rate up.
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Train-a-mania: I will try to level it, but I'm no Jim Thias! I am terrible at leveling!
Looks good to me. That's a slightly elevated curve, right?

I agree with Joe, way too bottom heavy. I see what you were trying to do in keeping the entire tree in there, but if you're going to do that, you need more on the bottom for better balance. Or, just crop it down on top a bit and cut off the tree.
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Looks good to me. That's a slightly elevated curve, right?

I agree with Joe, way too bottom heavy. I see what you were trying to do in keeping the entire tree in there, but if you're going to do that, you need more on the bottom for better balance. Or, just crop it down on top a bit and cut off the tree.
Thanks Jim. Yes, that is an elevated curve. You can really tell in person. I will definitely work on the cropping!
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:27 AM   #15
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Thanks guys! I got the first shot in the database!
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:23 PM   #16
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I hate to bring this thread back up, but I'm stumped on this unlevel reject. I can not seem to get it right. Even Jim Thias was wrong on this one! When I level it, I'm going to take a little more off of the top as well.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:41 PM   #17
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The pole and chimney are leaning left, so try going a bit CW.
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I hate to bring this thread back up, but I'm stumped on this unlevel reject. I can not seem to get it right. Even Jim Thias was wrong on this one! When I level it, I'm going to take a little more off of the top as well.
The screener was wrong with the original unlevel rejection. Hey, they're human...they make mistakes once in a while, too.
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The screener was wrong with the original unlevel rejection. Hey, they're human...they make mistakes once in a while, too.
Jim's ALWAYS right when it comes to level! Don't ever doubt him.
Poles lean, so can fieldstone chimneys occasionally. The fence posts on the left are leaning the opposite way, but fenceposts can lean also. The rooflines above them also appear to lean ever so slightly to the right but that's probably just angle perspective. The visible roofline on the depot looks about right to me. Possibly the screener just went with a reaction from the thumbnail without actually opening the shot to look at it closely. Probably had a ton of pics in the queue and little time to ponder; as has been pointed out countless times in the past they have lives and mucho other stuff on their plates to deal with. On the issue of "levelness" it might be worth an appeal. Overall I like the shot, the visual distractions on the left might detract a bit but I realize there's probably nothing that can be done about that.
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Try leveling it off this one
Amazing.

Jake, why even bother with the other one when you've got an almost-identical shot from the same day already accepted?
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Actually, the GEVO shot was rejected the day before I submitted the accepted version. I decided to take the GEVO shot to the forums because I was stumped, and then while looking at the AC44 shot, I decided to level and upload that one.
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