Old 06-27-2005, 11:59 AM   #1
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I'm amazed at the screeners here who accept photos like these:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=110703
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=110698

I get photos rejected like this:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=140088
* Bad composition. Just doesn't make sense.
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Old 06-27-2005, 12:23 PM   #2
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I'm no photo-expert, but my first observation is that your image is cocked to the right, the Jeep is unecessary, and perhaps the whistle post is crowding an otherwise good image.

Try rotating the image slightly to the left (use the whistle post as a guide - 1~1.5% should do it), and then crop the image between the right-edge of the station sign and the whistle post (removing the whistle post and Jeep all together). Also, adding a bit of contrast to bring out the vertical lines on the station might be worth trying.

Resubmit and see how it goes. Good luck!
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Old 06-27-2005, 12:47 PM   #3
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I'm not. BTW ,they were taken by a screener. LOL. How does that work? Anything goes?
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Anything goes?
I wouldn't think so. IMHO, the shots are artistic and quite moody, and certainly not the run-of-the-mill types.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:00 PM   #5
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Since when was Richard Hart a screener?

There is a fine line between a standard dark photo and a sunset shot. The inability to judge between the two shows how much some know about railroad photography (or photography in general).
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:03 PM   #6
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but K8DTI is.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:15 PM   #7
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Yeah, he is....whats your point? If you or anyone else had submitted the shot I can promise you it would have been accepted just as his submission was.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:35 PM   #8
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This question begs to be asked. Who screens the screeners?
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:47 PM   #9
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Images uploaded by crew are screened by other crew members (not by that person). Does that mean special treatment is being given? No. If anything, I would say that when I screener another crew member's upload I would hold it to a higher standard that someone elses.

The original point of this topic seems to have been lost by the wayside. If anyone else has comments regarding David's rejected photo, they are more than welcome.
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:04 PM   #10
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I'd just like to get an e-mail from screeners of my rejections so I don't have to guess or post here and have others guess.

I've had 7 photos rejected on 4 different occations and not one rejection e-mail with an explaination.

I would have rejected those two photos in question, I can't see the trucks!!
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Are you sure your email which is entered correctly on your user account? You may also want to check your spam filter on your email account/program, some filters grab the submissions results email.
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Are you sure your email which is entered correctly on your user account? You may also want to check your spam filter on your email account/program, some filters grab the submissions results email.
That was already suggested before here when I asked. I checked and my e-mail address here is my e-mail address. I check my spam file twice a day. I still don't get the rejection e-mails.
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:17 PM   #13
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I'm amazed at the screeners here who accept photos like these:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=110703
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=110698

I get photos rejected like this:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=140088
* Bad composition. Just doesn't make sense.
The first photo you mention is soft, out of focus and appears unlevel to the horizon. Possibly a bad scan. A good example of, "Why'd they accept that?".

The second could use a tighter crop. A little off the top and sides. It's not my cup of tea but it is sharp and appears to be in focus.

Photography is an artform and how that artform should be represented greatly differs from person to person.

As for your shot in question I think the composition is good if you crop out that Jeep. It distracts from the subject. Rotate it CCW .8 or so and crop to the edge of the building roofline on the right and to just past the hedge (nose of the red truck) on the left, keeping the same size ratio, then re-submit.

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Can't help you much then.....our email server is working as it should be. Sorry....
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I'll comment on the subject at hand.

The shot looks good to me, just crop the Jeep out on the right side.

I don't think rotation is necessary, but check with a photo editor and a vertical line. Check the loco and edge of the depot. The pole and whistle sign are leaning.

Good shot! I get pics up at the DGNO yard in Carrollton, but need to get back down and shoot the Katy depot there in Garland.

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It's called art.

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I get photos rejected like this:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=140088
* Bad composition. Just doesn't make sense.
This is called a "roster shot". For those, you want more of the focus on the locomotive. The Jeep adds nothing. All it requires is a simple fix which has been mentioned already.
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Old 06-28-2005, 04:14 AM   #17
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OK, I don't normally chime in but now I have to. The one shot in question: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=110698 is mine. I happen to love silhouettes and I've done quite a few.

Also: I am not a screener. I wouldn't mind the job though. I'd probably be too easy!

I am glad that the screeners think outside the box and take artistic material. Things would get boring fast otherwise.

As for the photo in question, I toyed with it in Photoshop and I'd crop out the Jeep and pole-crop just to the right of the W sign and rotate the photo .5 deg CCW.

dthawk, I've seen your photos before on ABPR and you do nice work, so I wouldn't sweat this one. The fix is easy.

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