Old 08-07-2009, 03:37 AM   #1
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OK the clouds cleared out and I ventured to the north side of Chicago waiting till 6 pm to avoid any "high sun" rejects. The right angle curve at Sheridan RD was my second project.

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I have noticed I get into "image quality" issues mostly trying to crop in closer or trying to move the image around to get the subject on a "thirds" intersection so I tried to move back instead.

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So much for that.

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Old 08-07-2009, 05:11 AM   #2
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Simple solution.

First one: Train is exactly in the middle of the shot.

Second version: You went the wrong way. Should have taken away foreground, not added it. A little more sky will help balance it out.

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Old 08-07-2009, 05:31 AM   #3
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Well this revision of the second shot didn't work either. Cut off some of the train on the right side.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=971515836

Thanks Chris for the suggestions. Will implement them and see what develops.

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Well this revision of the second shot didn't work either. Cut off some of the train on the right side.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=971515836
Don't cut off the train. There's no need to. I know you're trying to keep that yellow "N2" sign in at the bottom, but it doesn't add anything. Keep the speed limit sign and cut everything below that. Then add enough sky to put the train on the lower third horizontal axis and you'll be good to go. Good luck.

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Old 08-07-2009, 08:27 AM   #5
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David, did you snap a frame or two later, with the nose of the train facing directly toward you? Something just doesn't feel right with the placement of the train on the curve.
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Old 08-07-2009, 03:03 PM   #6
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Hit for "overexposure"

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=608872331

Jim, there is one later shot.

http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s...eridanLast.jpg

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reduce brightness a smidge on the first one to compensate for overexposure
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Old 08-07-2009, 03:55 PM   #8
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Still NO-GO!

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Still NO-GO!
In retrospect, the lower-third horizontal axis approach may not be so good. The sky is pretty dull and it takes up a lot of space in the frame.

I personally prefer the "later" shot, suitably cropped (including no "Danger" at the bottom).
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:33 PM   #10
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You may be right JRMDC. One last try at putting the train in the top third....third time is a charm????

If that doesn't work we'll try the later shot.

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If it's rejected that many times why not just let it go?
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If it's rejected that many times why not just let it go?
That's a good question John. First I guess it's the challenge and since the screeners' rejections weren't fatal...backlit, cloudy, not what we want...etc, then there's still a chance.

With cropping, for instance, do they want the train in the top or the bottom third. With color, do they want correction for the red hue of the late sun. Overexposed always gets me as the train looks fine...its a white building off in the background that is objectional.

With this curve shot, even my friends on the forum don't have the answer. So I take one suggestion and if that fails go to the other suggestion. At least with "autofill" a lot of info is already on the submission.

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Old 08-07-2009, 06:12 PM   #13
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I've put the train at the top third, I've put it at the bottom third. Still NO GO! Is there any way to learn from the screeners what it is that they want??

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YES. Much better.

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I've put the train at the top third, I've put it at the bottom third. Still NO GO! Is there any way to learn from the screeners what it is that they want??

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Go with the later shot and work on getting that one in. The train just looks...well, for the lack of a better term, "cooler" in the shot where it's directly facing you. It makes it look like the train is coming to kick your ass. When it's farther back in the curve, it just doesn't have that same impact.

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Old 08-07-2009, 10:49 PM   #15
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OK Jim. As they said at the Golden Spike ceremony...D--O--N--E. Let's see if the screeners like the comin' round the curve to kick..... LOL.

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Oh No.......

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C-u-r-v-e

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It's not so bad. Looks like the 2nd fixed the exposure on the 1st, and now it needs just a smidge of CCW rotation. Just a smidge; I would not have noticed it had there not been a rejection.
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