Old 06-19-2009, 05:41 PM   #1
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In the spring, I've taken the shot in first attachment. I've played with a bit and got this reject.

Could you point me how to fix what can be fixed?

1. bad cropping.
I've chosen my crop because it made most sense to me. It made the S-shaped track and road prominent while keeping enough breathing room for the scene. On the downside, there's a lot of overexposed sky and underexposed trees. Second best seems crop to me to keep bottom and left edges the same and crop the top above second lamp post and right side between BMW and Fiat. What do you think about this one?

2. overexposed
I guess it concerns the sky. I've already darkened it in my edit to make clouds visible. I can't get it much darker because it starts to be greyish overprocessed something and it would not blend with lights peering throuhg branches. I guess that tighter crop could make this even worse because most of sky texture is in the top left

3. leveling/perspective (not rejection reason)
Quite tough. There are no dependable verticals because each pole points differently (and not to a single vanishing point), the wall to the left is inclined and there's simply no vertical line to the right. To make things even worse, both road and rails are banked. Not a big issue with most-of-the-frame crops but again starts to look weird to me with tighter crop.

4. sharpening (not rejection reason)
I couldn't manage to sharpen this one without too much blown out areas. I usually don't have problems with sharpening but this one is quite difficult to me. Second attachment is crop of original picture (3130x2075, the edit was 2463x1647 before resize).
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Old 06-19-2009, 05:55 PM   #2
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You have a lot of empty space in the original, and if you crop too much you don't have good image quality. Good luck with that but that might ultimately limit you.

Here is my take on the crop. I preserve the "story" of trolley and highway and a bit of the water, which helps give context to the curves and to some extent the walls. The left side did nothing, so gone. The sky is ugly, so gone. I tried to keep in the additional car on the right but it just didn't work for me.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:52 AM   #3
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I thought of something similar. It's bad cropping again.
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No suggestions, sorry. It also appears quite contrasty, not in a bad way, but in a way that may not appeal to RP screeners.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:35 PM   #5
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It's side-lit with quite weird spring light (clear air with a lot of clouds) and my low radius/high amount sharpening adds to that.
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