Old 12-05-2004, 03:04 PM   #1
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=71835

I had this photo rejected due to the nose being shadowed. I appealed it and it was still rejected and didn't have a reason why. There are plenty, and I mean probably hundreds of photos which have shadowed noses. Here are some examples (most of these have been accepted in the past couple of days):

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=86790
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=86782
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=86763
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=86706
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=86690
(the photo above is the same kind of engine I have in my photo with the exact same kind of shadowing)
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=86674
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=86679

and thats not all.......
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Old 12-05-2004, 03:53 PM   #2
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Most of the photos you posted aren't really that bad, although I am surprised 86790 was accepted. If you have PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro, try lighting up the dark side of the nose and pilot.
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Old 12-05-2004, 04:00 PM   #3
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Well, I tried to pick out instances that not all the nose, but half of it was shadowed just like mine. It goes to show you how unregulated their screening is.
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Old 12-05-2004, 04:47 PM   #4
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I saw your post on another forum so I can see you are quite upset about this. I took the liberty to touch up your photo:

http://www.geocities.com/guilford_350/CSXfix.jpg

I brightened up the dark side of the nose and pilot, not too drastically though. I don't know what else can be done to this photo. Don't get me wrong, I think its a great photo but the lack of scenery kinda kills it.
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Old 12-05-2004, 04:57 PM   #5
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Thanks for brightning up my photo. I can see a difference in the front. However, did you really need scenery for a good photo? I certainly don't think so. You get see an upclose image of the head locomotive and also WB Tower in the background which might not be around for too much longer.
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Old 12-05-2004, 08:10 PM   #6
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I assume you appealed the rejection and stated that the shot is side lit and it has that tower in the background which makes the shot 'special?' If not, try that.

However, maybe it's my monitor, but it looks like there is distortion in the shadowed area on the viewer's left side of the plow at the bottom and just under the ditch light. The hoses in the shadow also look digitally distorted. Again, it could just be my monitor.
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Old 12-05-2004, 08:57 PM   #7
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Yeah, I had already appealed the rejection and it was still rejected. I went over to RRPictureArchives.net and uploaded it there. It was selected to be one of the editors' picks:
http://<br /> http://www.rrpicturea....aspx?id=69970
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Editor's Pick? Granted I have seen a lot worse that seems pretty generous.

CSX SD70MACs are very common power. The angle of the shot is a very "in your face" one not showing much scenery around it. Its hard to see the tower in the background and overall the photo just isn't very exciting. Having perfect light on the nose wouldn't correct any of these problems but it would have made it a little more likely to be accepted.
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Pretty generous! I'm being pretty generous right restraining what I could say right now. You don't need scenery to have a good photo but that seems that is all the Railpictures.net wants. They don't seem to be very opened minded and welcomed to different shots.

I get excited by these types of shots and I'm sure others do too. It's all a preference and all preferences should be welcomed here but thats not the case. Once again, there are a bunch of shots that don't have "perfect lighting" on the nose and that are accepted. Your standards are out of whack and need to be more in line.
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Pretty generous! I'm being pretty generous right restraining what I could say right now. You don't need scenery to have a good photo but that seems that is all the Railpictures.net wants. They don't seem to be very opened minded and welcomed to different shots.

I get excited by these types of shots and I'm sure others do too. It's all a preference and all preferences should be welcomed here but thats not the case. Once again, there are a bunch of shots that don't have "perfect lighting" on the nose and that are accepted. Your standards are out of whack and need to be more in line.
Those photos that you posted atleast had some scenery and were not as much "in your face", as Chris said. I had a couple photos in the past which were rejected because of lack of scenery. Although that wasn't the main reason for rejection, it played a big part in it.
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"Pretty generous! I'm being pretty generous right restraining what I could say right now. You don't need scenery to have a good photo but that seems that is all the Railpictures.net wants. They don't seem to be very opened minded and welcomed to different shots.

"I get excited by these types of shots and I'm sure others do too. It's all a preference and all preferences should be welcomed here but thats not the case. Once again, there are a bunch of shots that don't have "perfect lighting" on the nose and that are accepted. Your standards are out of whack and need to be more in line."

Brandon, the difference between a good photo and a
mediocre one is that a good photo is visually interesting. The
elements that make an image worth a second look are scenery,
context, weather, its uniqueness, and the fundamentals, good lighting, proper exposure, composition of the shot, cropping, etc.

It is very easy in this hobby to take a boring 3/4 wedge photo
of a locomotive consist, and I've taken my share as well, but
choosing the right location and using your imagination to frame
a shot should result in better pictures, photos that are truly
interesting and exciting.

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You need to go back to that exact same spot and take a picture with no train. That way there will be more scenery, you can see the tower, and there won't be a dark nose. There won't be a train...but by the screeners' standards it will be more acceptable.
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Thanks Dave and Joe for your comments. That train kinda caught me by suprise and it is a tough angle with sign posts and such. I'll go back soon and try that spot again. If the train is on the mainline, not the cross over, it would be a much better shot.
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