Old 02-19-2009, 05:33 AM   #1
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Hi, I've recently taken the shot in attachment. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to keep it level. I tried to tilt it and then crop as little as possible - just to get rid of most distracting heads in lower left. Got bad cropping:
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How can I crop it better? I've got enough resolution to do aggresive crop, but I'd like to keep as much of frame as possible, especially dark walls in the left and light church in the right.
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:44 AM   #2
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David,

My gut reaction is that the tram is too low in the frame. The image does not follow the rule of thirds, which would require the tram have space below it to breathe.

You could try a full frame version without cropping at all. Maybe the scenery will win out. (If it were my shot, that's what I would do.)

If that doesn't work, I would re crop, losing some of the skyline, because of how low the tram is in frame. This means keeping all of the bottom of the frame, and making the location of the tram about a third into the image. Of course, there is some wiggle room here, but I don't think you can keep that green roof. It's too far away from the subject of the image.

Realize, I like the full frame idea better than the radical crop suggestion, but it may be the more successful one.
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My gut reaction is that the tram is too low in the frame. The image does not follow the rule of thirds, which would require the tram have space below it to breathe.
I'm with you on that one. The tram might be better served a little higher in the frame. What I might suggest is the faint sliver of building on the left might be excised completely, which would free the image of those vertical constraints on both sides. Did you happen to take any other shots with more people in them? That may add a bit more of a dynamic to the picture.
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What I might suggest is the faint sliver of building on the left might be excised completely, which would free the image of those vertical constraints on both sides.
I have to agree with Lou here that the dark building at left has to go. If there was light on it, it might work, but it's just too dark. Crop up to the person in the pink jacket.

Also, Lou and Charles are right about there not being enough room at the bottom of the photo. If you have a wider one, it might work, otherwise you may have to lose some of the green roof.

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Thank you all very much for your suggestions, what do you think about these two? I kept bottom as low as possible without getting rail-head collision in first one and then i moved it to the very edge of picture.
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Thank you all very much for your suggestions, what do you think about these two? I kept bottom as low as possible without getting rail-head collision in first one and then i moved it to the very edge of picture.
I think the first works better than the original photo submitted. There is a little more breathing room which was suggested in the rejection email.
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I say "dobra prace" on the edit, nicely done.

I'd go with the second one, despite the tiny head under the tram. Trimming off the building to the left opens that sky up so much more. Good luck!
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:10 PM   #8
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So I tried first one - and got bad contrast reject. It was right, because shadows were all mixed up to one greyish-brownish something. So I tried a bit of playing with curves and obviously managed to fix it:
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I say "dobra prace"
Had you managed to say "dobrá práce", it would be a perfect job, not just a good job.

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