Old 04-17-2005, 07:30 AM   #1
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I model in N scale and i'm about to add about a 100 car coal train to my layout. My question is BNSF or UP?? I like both railroads so i'm having a hard time deciding.
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:24 PM   #2
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It depends on what you're interested in.

If you like SD70MAC's, run a BNSF coal train. You would be able to by SD70MAC's for BN (with a little patching) or Heritage II, both are available from Kato.

If you like AC4400's, a UP coal train would work. You could use Kato's AC4400's, the low numberboard CNW's and UP's plus both UP High numberboard versions. If Kato ever comes out with an SP AC4400, that would work too (SP's the only railroad Kato hasn't made ). For more variety UP is proably the better railroad.

Hope that helped!
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Old 04-17-2005, 03:38 PM   #3
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I agree, UP has more variety. In addition to the AC4400's, the Kato SD90MAC's would fit right in as well. Throw in a couple SP and CNW units and you'll have yourself a pretty realistic coal operation.
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:24 PM   #4
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Like SD60s? Go BNSF and throw in some Oakway leasers. If your layout's "location" fits, you could also represent the Canadian Pacific's 800 trains. They frequently have BNSF power.

Some districts/power pools on the BNSF use AC44s and the occasional Dash9.
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You could go 50/50. But the trick here is what is your primary road on your layout? If its BNSF/UP, i suggest staying w/ that road [it prevents out of control locomotive purchasing ] ssw9662 makes a good point, UP seems to throw anything at coal trains while BNSF uses AC stuff most of the time.
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Old 04-18-2005, 04:18 AM   #6
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I run both UP and BNSF on my layout. Both have their own areas and mainlines. I was mainly kinda goin for what people like more, UP or BNSF?
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Old 04-18-2005, 05:36 AM   #7
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[quote=ssw9662]It depends on what you're interested in.

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If Kato ever comes out with an SP AC4400, that would work too (SP's the only railroad Kato hasn't made ).
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Kato has made SP engines...just not ac4400cw's. They have made dash 9's and some GP units.
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Old 04-19-2005, 03:36 AM   #8
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LOL, I have to side with the UP units . . .
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I would go with the UP flag scheme. Get 3 or more flag AC's or throw in a SD70M in there, that would look awesome. BNSF is cool but i think the kato UP flag engines are way better, there less boring. Nice coal drag, 100 cars. Thats something that can only be done in N scale. My coal train is only 40 cars and its huge to me.
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Just my 2cents, go EMD whichever you choose. I always see them up front in a coal train, dragging along a GE. You know, if the GE catches fire, the EMD's can still carry the load.
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UP has a fewer percentage of coal trains with just EMDs. Usually there will be at least 1 AC44 on it, sometimes there will be a 90MAC or two. However, on BNSF, 90% of the time it's a pair of SD70MACs on the front.
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However, on BNSF, 90% of the time it's a pair of SD70MACs on the front.
Not in North Dakota. I have yet to see an SD70MAC pair dragging coal here, but the majority of the coal has had Oakway SD60s up front or at least in the consist. I have actually been wanting to shoot some 70MACs as they're one of my favorites, but I've seen none!
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Usually there will be at least 1 AC44 on it, sometimes there will be a 90MAC or two. However, on BNSF, 90% of the time it's a pair of SD70MACs on the front.
That's right...

A GE to get it moving, and EMD's to keep it moving.
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