Old 01-05-2008, 11:53 PM   #1
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http://tinyurl.com/396ygx this one was rejected for being blurry, I would like any opinions on it and if it can be sharpened enough to be acceptable. IMO I think soft may be a better way to describe it though. I did originally crop out most of the area to the left and right of the train, but thought an original give a better idea of the photo.

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Old 01-05-2008, 11:55 PM   #2
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http://tinyurl.com/396ygx this one was rejected for being blurry, I would like any opinions on it and if it can be sharpened enough to be acceptable. IMO I think soft may be a better way to describe it though. I did originally crop out most of the area to the left and right of the train, but thought an original give a better idea of the photo.

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Whoa...is it common up there to see elk (?) grazing next to trains??
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:00 AM   #3
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If you could get a free lunch courtesy of grain cars you`d probably take it as well :P Few more elk here if you didn`t catch it: http://tinyurl.com/3cp44j
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Will, that's it. We're making a Jasper large mammal rejects club.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...7/5604deer.jpg
I think your picture isn't really blurry, and I like it.
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1/30 thats a bit slow if hand held?
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1/30 thats a bit slow if hand held?
Depends upon what your focal length is.
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Well the lens I was using can go to f1.8 which I suppose may of helped get a faster shutter, but I'm not sure if the few bright spots in the picture may of been blown with the train quite a bit darker.

Does anyone see any problems with the image its self? Any edits suggested or? I personally like it and wouldn't mind trying to submit it again.
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Does anyone see any problems with the image its self? Any edits suggested or? I personally like it and wouldn't mind trying to submit it again.

Can we see the rejection photo instead? The one you have linked is a bit small so it's hard to tell how unsharp it is.
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You can use the drop down menu to resize it, this is full size:
http://tinyurl.com/3dd33x
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You can use the drop down menu to resize it, this is full size:
http://tinyurl.com/3dd33x
It's easier to just give us the link to the reject. We see the full size and there's no drop down menu. We can also see the exact reason for the reject as sometimes things tend to get lost in translation. Not saying you're doing this, but folks have said, for example, that they didn't understand why their shot was rejected for Unlevel Horizion and then when we see the actual link, it also has other rejection reasons.


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Alright: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=971984064
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Will, it's a nice composition and has some appealing evening lighting, but I don't think you're going to be able to get the front of the loco much sharper without it looking like you over sharpened it. I could be wrong, but that's just how it appears on my end. There seems to be very slight blur due to a slower shutter speed.

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After looking at it full size, I don't think it's blurry, so much as that he focused on the wrong spot of the train. At f/1.8, there's going to be a relatively shallow depth of field, and the train's cars look pretty sharp, but as you move up to the engine, it becomes out of focus.
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After looking at it full size, I don't think it's blurry, so much as that he focused on the wrong spot of the train. At f/1.8, there's going to be a relatively shallow depth of field, and the train's cars look pretty sharp, but as you move up to the engine, it becomes out of focus.
Good theory, but... while the rejected photo has no EXIF info (always, always, when using Adobe products, Save As instead of Save For Web! Always !!!!), the original photo linked has an EXIF showing f/5.6. The lens may have been capable of f/1.8, but apparently that was not the setting.

Still possible that shallow DoF is a major contributor to the problem if focus was mistakenly at the rear of the train.
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Note to self...use "save as" function. Comment re picture....looks like a perfect example of where a VR lens might have made a big difference. Basically I like the picture. It's a bit dark but has decent highlights that make it work. And of course the elk add extra interest. But the lack of sharpness on the nose (point of focus) in the larger version is a challenge. But maybe some additional sharping can do it. You also might try reducing the size (not cropping) to near the minimum requirements RP, which will increase the apparent sharpness.
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