Old 02-26-2009, 02:38 AM   #1
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Knocked for bad cropping. This is a shot I really liked, as I placed the poles (which is where the namesake "Pole Yards" come from) in with the units (two bandits) on the wye, and even included the WC depot. Although its cut off now, I had a story behind every object that I included, which should explain why I cropped it the way I did. Opinions?

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Old 02-26-2009, 02:48 AM   #2
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Knocked for bad cropping. This is a shot I really liked, as I placed the poles (which is where the namesake "Pole Yards" come from) in with the units (two bandits) on the wye, and even included the WC depot. Although its cut off now, I had a story behind every object that I included, which should explain why I cropped it the way I did. Opinions?

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Alec, I think there's too much sky and empty foreground. Maybe crop both equally and chop the depot in half and see how that looks?

Aside: I loved shooting those old Bandits when they roamed around on the Latta Sub down in Indiana a few years ago. As young as I am, it was pretty darn cool to see an "ancient" paint scheme still plying the rails.
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Old 02-26-2009, 02:50 AM   #3
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You are thinking about all the elements, but you aren't thinking about the absence of elements.

Try removing some of the plain blue sky. You still have plenty of shot to work with if you go 1024x683. Maybe remove a bit of foreground also.
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It looks to me like sort of a weird composition, did you take anything closer to maybe a 3/4 shot of this rather unique engine? If you look at the picture, there's just a whole lot of dead space, especially in the foreground, and there is a lot of somewhat "blah" sky. On the upside, though, you didn't fall into the traps of many fellow posters lately - it's level!

It looks like you were on the right track with the shot, but it just didn't quite get there.
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While I like the concept, I think you might be running up against the old rule of thirds. The engine ends up pretty close to the center both horizontally and vertically. And while the other elements you wanted to include add interest in the horizontal plane, the top and bottom end up being a fair amount of empty space. Maybe a crop like this would work better for the screeners? I took a bit of the left to balance what I removed from the bottom so as not to cut off any of the building on the right, though you end up losing some of the posts and wood on the left.

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Maybe a crop like this would work better for the screeners? I took a bit of the left to balance what I removed from the bottom so as not to cut off any of the building on the right, though you end up losing some of the posts and wood on the left.
For what it's worth, I suggested cropping to keep the left side of the image because, apparently, the poles are how Pole Yard got its name. ("Apparently" because I don't know the whole story due to the caption getting chopped on the rejected image.)
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I think either way might work. It just seemed to me that, as they were already cut off, losing a bit more wouldn't detract as much from the composition as cutting the building up, but that's up to the OP. I think we were both typing at the same time again . . .

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Thanks guys, I tried Mr. Honans advice, and if that doesnt work than I'll take the advice and cut down on the sky and foreground. Third times the charm, maybe?

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Thanks guys, I tried Mr. Honans advice, and if that doesnt work than I'll take the advice and cut down on the sky and foreground. Third times the charm, maybe?

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My advice didn't appear to work, but nevertheless, congrats!

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Ya, that is the second one with a new crop. Thanks guys!

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