Old 07-20-2006, 02:29 AM   #1
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Default Once again I need help in understand a rejection.

You forum guys must get tired of these rejected threads all the time, but they are a help, so thank you. Here are my two. http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=269684 http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=269692
As regards the first one I know how to fix the saturation, but I'm not sure what color depth means. The second one is by far my best shot so far, but I see little wrong with it. The plow is a little dark and theres a little white on the hood, but other then that I think its really nice. So if you can help me I'd appreciate. Thanks.
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Old 07-20-2006, 02:31 AM   #2
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The first photo has too much color saturation. The second one looks good to me, however the shadow on the plow might have caused it to be rejected. You can appeal the second one if you want, though.
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I'm not the best at improving color on photos, but I gave it a shot.



Let me know what you think.
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I'm not the best at improving color on photos, but I gave it a shot.



Let me know what you think.
I think its better. What did you do?
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I toned down the saturation.
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Old 07-20-2006, 03:32 AM   #6
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You forum guys must get tired of these rejected threads all the time,
Not really. I get a kick out of telling people their shots suck.

That's a joke by the way!!!

I really like the first shot, but as noted, there is too much color saturation. If I were you, I would go back and tone done the colors a bit. See what works best. It might just need lightning up. I think that shot is a keeper if you can fix the color.

The second shot will probably get kicked for high sun or foreground clutter. It's not a bad shot at all, but just not what RP wants.

Good work though.


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Just to note that the framing of the first shot is dead on. I like the inclusion of the power poles and lines. They really work for this shot. One thing I did not notice at first is that the trucks are not lit well. That might get the shot kicked, but it might not. If you fix the color, I would resubmitt. If it's rejected for high sun, it might still be RP-worthy, but that is a bridge you can burn if you cross it.


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Old 07-20-2006, 02:23 PM   #8
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The first shot has been pretty well diagnosed, but my question is, did you get that level of super saturation (think electric kool aid!) in photo shop or are the camera settings doing that? Either way, you need to dial it back more than just a little bit!

I don't think the sun is at a high angle on the second shot, the trucks are lit and the engine's shadow is reasonably long. It's slightly back lit, so there is a small shadow from the top corner of the plow. I think the fact that the foreground vegetation covered part of the unit got the screener focused on the shadows, so that's the button that got pushed.

I'm sure the comments are all pre-set, either function keys or hot keys, so sometimes the screener's comment that you see isn't the full reason why your shot was rejected.

My suggestion is do some trimming of the vegetation if you want to use this location again, or bring a step ladder and get above it. I've been on a lot of photo charters where half the participants bring small step ladders. Even a foot of elevation makes a big difference in eliminating foreground vegetation.

If the rest of the shot is good, some minor shadows shouldn't be a problem.

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You forum guys must get tired of these rejected threads all the time, but they are a help, so thank you.........Thanks.
Not at all, I enjoy looking at Photos and adding my 2 cents as needed. It makes me feel important

OK down to work, the first one is a good photo in my opinion but has way to much colour. The second one is a lot better colour wise but is still a little oversaturated but to fix the high sun problem you will have to talk to the man up stairs.
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