Old 07-14-2012, 08:55 PM   #1
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Default D&H C268: Well, I liked it....

Here's one for you D&H and Alco fans.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...64&key=9263422

I'll try some different ones, later...
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Old 07-15-2012, 12:13 AM   #2
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Don,

I love shots taken out the front window and this one is a winner in my book. Thanks for sharing with us. I just wish it was in the database for more people to see!

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Old 07-15-2012, 02:02 AM   #3
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Send it to Trains.
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Definitely - that's a neat shot, thanks for sharing it!
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Definitely - that's a neat shot, thanks for sharing it!
Thanks, guys. I've been working my way through my D&H stuff...slowly.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:49 AM   #6
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Well, if you have a pile of D&H stuff, I wouldn't be so fast to send that one to Trains. Let's see what else turns up!
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:27 AM   #7
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That is a ridiculous rejection.
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Appeal that please. Also, throw some yellow and red in there to take some of the blue cast out. I really like that one and not just because I'm a D&H fan.
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Appeal, appeal, appeal.

Oh, also, appeal.

On second look, it is a little cool. Fix the color (slightly) and resubmit.
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Other than dark and really blue, looks terrific. Funny how the reason is the one seen more often than not in the database. Excellent shot
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Killer shot.
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I think its quite well done, seems like the consensus is to appeal. Me personally I would like to see a nice boring roster shot of the C628, one of my favorite locomotives in one of my favorite paint schemes even though I was born far too late to see any. Its too bad only one D&H C628 survives and just barely at that.
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Appeal that please. Also, throw some yellow and red in there to take some of the blue cast out. I really like that one and not just because I'm a D&H fan.
Thanks! I'll try it.
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I like that one, but the color fix is a good idea.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:40 AM   #15
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I like it, too!

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Old 07-18-2012, 07:14 PM   #16
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Tough call, Don.

The subject is awesome and could easily fall into the "nostalgic" category with more tolerance allowed but "best railroad photos on the 'Net" it is, in my humble opinion, not. Honest critiques I think go a long, long way in helping all of us "stay on track" or improve our photography. I'm a big fan of your work and have left many comments confirming that and while I'd have no issue with acceptance of the image, I am not necessarily a fan.

Honestly - the image is a bit "chalky" and pastel paint like (especially the clouds and trees), the color cast (as mentioned) is off, the horns are cut off and some work might be prudent in removing the blue fringe from the cab window outline. Such an image would really pop had a high(er) f stop been chosen or if processing of such an image allowed greater sharpness of the foreground cab window and wipers.

That being said, and while not personally a fan of the technical aspect of the shot, I do like the nostalgic aspect and I'm happy to have had a chance to view it.

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Such nits being picked. It s a powerful image as is. Sure, do work on the color but as is it beats the crap out of zillions of boring wedges here.
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Gee Mitch, It sounds as if though you'd like the shot if a higher F stop was used and the horn was more visible. The shot is 36 years old of a very interesting subject and an interesting perspective, like what you'd see from standing inside the cab naturally.

I really like the shot, but not everybody will. But out of curiosity, I wonder how well it would do in views and favorites compared to the average view in the data base.

Hmmm, what is the average view for pictures on railpictures?

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Seems to me that great shots are getting fewer views these days compared to the days of old.

Or am I talking out of my hickory stripe hat?
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The shot is 36 years old of a very interesting subject and an interesting perspective, like what you'd see from standing inside the cab naturally.
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It's never my intention to be harsh. My opinions are just that - my own and hopefully they shed some light on issues otherwise not seen by the original photographer. Sometimes we are impressed with certain aspects of an image that other aspects are overlooked or even go unnoticed.

Is this a great photo or is it instead a nostalgic treat?

Would it work today, as is ,with CSX as the subject factoring in the issues mentioned?

To those who say yes, perhaps it does work in effectively capturing the look and feel of a mid-seventies image. Had that been the true intent, there would be no denying the success. After all, most of us have purposely degraded an image or two by vignetting an image, adding grain or simply gone B&W for reasons specific to dating an image.

I agree with Dennis - it's much more interesting then dozens of standard fare wedges but RP seemingly will reject only images with technical issues but not dull images perfectly captured.

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Seems to me that great shots are getting fewer views these days compared to the days of old.

Or am I talking out of my hickory stripe hat?
Well, my most popular shot this year is two broken knuckles on ballast so... I think you may be up to something.

With the constant flow of NS heritage stuff lately, I don't get worried if a photo I'm very happy with only gets 275 views in a week.
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Honestly - the image is a bit "chalky" and pastel paint like (especially the clouds and trees), the color cast (as mentioned) is off, the horns are cut off and some work might be prudent in removing the blue fringe from the cab window outline. Such an image would really pop had a high(er) f stop been chosen or if processing of such an image allowed greater sharpness of the foreground cab window and wipers.

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Your thoughts got me to be thinking about how all sorts of phony photoshopping is perfectly acceptable, but film shot are no good because the colors are not perfectly true to reality or there's grain in them.

Also, I think the f-stop must have been reasonably high, given the train in the distance is perhaps the sharpest thing in the photo!

Still, great shot. Reminds me of images in books and magazines from the 1970s. As a kid I always thought they looked better than reality somehow. Still do.
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Your thoughts got me to be thinking about how all sorts of phony photoshopping is perfectly acceptable, but film shot are no good because the colors are not perfectly true to reality or there's grain in them.
It would seem that "better then real" is preferable to less then perfect.
Technically, I'd say the shot "should" look something like this:

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Unless of course Don was going for a specific /dated look:

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The fact that it was not (I'll assume) intentional kind of relegates it to the nostalgic category in my opinion. In that case, it works, (perhaps better then had it been taken today under ideal circumstances) though the image is relatively modern.

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Also, I think the f-stop must have been reasonably high, given the train in the distance is perhaps the sharpest thing in the photo!
That's why I said "high(er)".

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Still, great shot. Reminds me of images in books and magazines from the 1970s. As a kid I always thought they looked better than reality somehow. Still do.
I hear ya - as an audiophile, there was a time when I would refuse to upgrade to compact disc and held on tightly (and still do at times) to my phonograph player. It's the imperfections that can add the charm. Anyone ever watch Quentin Tarantino's Grindhouse series?

Still - I say, if the subject was NS or CSX, I do not believe it would work which leads me to believe it's all about the nostalgia. 'Course, that's only my opinion.

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The shot does nothing for me personally, and, frankly, I wasn't seeing where all the love for it was coming from. But, to each his own...
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