Old 10-05-2010, 01:43 PM   #1
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The restored SP 745 made its first appearance at Gretna (La) Heritage Festival, and I was able to shoot it during its return to the LASTA yard.



Rejected for bad cropping. Any ideas, friends?
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Old 10-06-2010, 12:07 AM   #2
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Too tight all around, don't like how that last car is nearly cut off, it seems to be either unlevel or poorly composed. Can you post the original, as I will be more than happy to help you work from there.
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Old 10-06-2010, 12:14 AM   #3
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A train centered in the frame is always at risk for a rejection.

If you can reedit and present without the rear being chopped as well as placing the engine in a less centered position, you should be OK.

When was this?

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Old 10-06-2010, 02:36 AM   #4
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LASTA's former SP 745 heading home

I had cropped it in some trying to eliminate the string of hoppers on the other track, while trying to keep as much of the steam at the front.

As far as being unlevel, I am not helped at all by the power lines in the background.

This was taken yesterday afternoon; the train appeared at the Gretna Heritage Festival, in Gretna, LA. The locomotive was built at the nearby Algiers shop, in 1921, out of "spare" parts. The train was being shoved by NOLR 1229. The train had been pulled most of the way by the switcher, before being turned at a wye to be handed off to the New Orleans Public Belt for it's trip home across the Huey P Long Bridge.
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:09 AM   #5
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Funny - that photo is much nicer.

Did you think Flickr had higher standards then RP, LOL.

I'd crop just a hair off the right to better balance the photo.
As far as levelness - I go by either the bottom or top of the nose numberboard or the verticals of the cab. Could stand a slight CW
rotation.

Glad to see this engine in steam again - they could've done better
on the publicity in advance.

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Old 10-10-2010, 03:54 AM   #6
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Default Arrggh!

On Friday, after coming home from work, I straightened the photo and cropped a little off the right, and resubmitted:

"Soft" version

It was rejected for being Undersharp. So, I sharpened the photo slightly:

Sharpened version

and was rejected for bad compositon.

I can't seem to win. I filed an appeal on Friday afternoon, and haven't heard.

Any ideas?
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:43 PM   #7
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The issues that I see with the versions you are submitting are that:

A) The nose of the engine is too centered. For RP, it is best to put the nose in one of the "thirds" positions. (Google "Rule of Thirds" for more information)

B) The photos are cropped too closely on elements on the right side of the photo. In the first attempt, it appears as if the goal was to get rid of the freight car, which resulted in the last car of the train being too near the border of the image. In the next attempt, that freight car was left in, but it too was cropped too closely.

Take your original and crop some off the left side and some off the bottom. I wouldn't touch the right side at all. You need everything that's there for balance. The quickie crop that I've attached isn't a perfect solution, but is more likely to meet with the Screener's approval than the previous attempts. In general, my advice would be to shoot the subject slightly wider, to give yourself more cropping options. With steam engines, you would normally want to preserve as much of the exhaust plume....and in this case cylinder cock plumes....as much as possible.
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