Old 06-12-2017, 01:19 PM   #1
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Had this rejected for loose composition. I have the nose of the unit on a thirds rule point, but I'm really not sure how much tighter of a crop I could go on this without either having the end of the train cut off on the right, or cropping the left so much you lose the whole point of the photo showing the other train being passed. Thoughts?

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Old 06-12-2017, 01:44 PM   #2
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Wasn't this shot already discussed a year ago?
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I brought it up with a whole bunch of rejections back when I was first able to post on the forum, but never got any advice specific to this image. I haven't been able to get out much so have been revisiting some older images I never submitted or wanted to try again with.
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My biggest issue is everything but a nose isn't lit, and shadowed intermodal isn't holding up the left side of the frame well enough for the composition to work.

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Rp probably wants a wedgie here....
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Rp probably wants a wedgie here....
No, they probably want light on the other side of the tracks
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No, they probably want light on the other side of the tracks
Then the rejection wouldn't be for loose composition, it would be for lighting.

The nose is well lit and I personally think that it is a head on enough angle that the light being on the wrong side isn't a major issue.
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Then the rejection wouldn't be for loose composition, it would be for lighting.

The nose is well lit and I personally think that it is a head on enough angle that the light being on the wrong side isn't a major issue.
But your premise on the composition is to include the intermodal train on the left, which is not lit at all and therefore isn't going to carry the composition in a way proper to suit the RP gods.

They are telling you to crop down onto the nose lit train. Then they can reject it for poor lighting lol.

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They are telling you to crop down onto the nose lit train. Then they can reject it for poor lighting lol.
Yeah that's what I'd like to avoid doing...
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Yup. They say they don't want just cookie-cutter wedgies, but they push submissions in that direction with their rejections.
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Yup. They say they don't want just cookie-cutter wedgies, but they push submissions in that direction with their rejections.
Hit the nail on the head with this one
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Yup. They say they don't want just cookie-cutter wedgies, but they push submissions in that direction with their rejections.
If they would have hit it with a poor lighting rejection we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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Not to distract from the discussion of the NS photo, but with a slightly tighter crop, mine made it. Most likely some screener roulette, but it is one of my favorite shots that I've taken for some reason.

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Not to distract from the discussion of the NS photo, but with a slightly tighter crop, mine made it. Most likely some screener roulette, but it is one of my favorite shots that I've taken for some reason.

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Ah it was me that distracted the discussion... I'm glad you got yours on! We all have that "for some reason shot" I feel that way about the one I interrupted the discussion with, I like mine for the why I was there, who was with me and the info I had just gathered, I just didnt get "That" shot to covey it. Another day for me....
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Not to distract from the discussion of the NS photo, but with a slightly tighter crop, mine made it. Most likely some screener roulette, but it is one of my favorite shots that I've taken for some reason.

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Yay?
No need to be a dick, some of us enjoy getting our photos on here. You don't see me making snarky comments like that on your threads about 611.
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No need to be a dick, some of us enjoy getting our photos on here. You don't see me making snarky comments like that on your threads about 611.
I'm not trying to be a dick, but I also listen to advice given here and don't try to force things (like that)
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I'm not trying to be a dick, but I also listen to advice given here and don't try to force things (like that)
The only advice I got in this thread was to go wedgie or crop it down to just those so it could get a bad lighting rejection, neither of which I wanted to do because I wouldn't bother submitting at that point, but that has nothing to do with listening to advice or not. Not sure what you're saying here.
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The forum used to be a little rougher and I took it personally a couple times but responded with a private message which I think is preferred to getting into an online thing. Now I look at it as part of the scene. The reality is just because an image got accepted does not make it 100% ok with everyone and expressing that opinion is fine with me.

I had a night photo that I mentioned I got on, not to say it was great but to point out going back and working on an old image. It was noted one of the headlights was blueish. I didn't like the comment but now it still bugs me that I did not catch that . The comment was correct and helped me?? I hope.

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