Old 11-19-2009, 01:35 AM   #1
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CSX Service Bulletin - Thanksgiving Holiday Schedule

CSX will observe the Thanksgiving holiday from 11 p.m. on Wednesday,
November 25, through 7 a.m. Saturday, November 28. During this time,
most terminal and train operations will be curtailed.

We plan to closely mirror this service suspension during the Christmas
and New Year holiday periods and will provide further communication on
those plans in December.

This stinks! To me it sounds like the railroads have no money-this sure sounds fishy!
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Old 11-19-2009, 01:40 AM   #2
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CSX Service Bulletin - Thanksgiving Holiday Schedule

CSX will observe the Thanksgiving holiday from 11 p.m. on Wednesday,
November 25, through 7 a.m. Saturday, November 28. During this time,
most terminal and train operations will be curtailed.

We plan to closely mirror this service suspension during the Christmas
and New Year holiday periods and will provide further communication on
those plans in December.

This stinks!
Why does it stink ? Crews want to be home for Christmas with their families and not to entertain you foamers trackside. Forgot to mention CP does this also.
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Thankfully NS starts back up the day after thanksgiving as i'll be out by Altoona railfanning there, 5 hours from home and i dont want to be dissapointed. I always have an awesome time in that area.
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Every since the curfew this summer into fall, this really doesn't affect us over here on the New Castle/Pittsburgh/Keystone/Cumberland subs. Everything ran at night during the curfew (which is still going on, but not much work, just clean-up now) and I don't when the curfew will be finally over that they'll just up and switch the schedules to run during the day.

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Why does it stink ? Crews want to be home for Christmas with their families and not to entertain you foamers trackside.
Seriously? Do you think saying "this stinks" is a dumb statement in this case? On a railroad photograpghy site?

Last time I checked, the majority of folks that visit this forum take photos of trains. And a lot of those folks have time off during Thanksgiving. So they have free time that could be spent trackside...but the trains aren't running. That stinks from the standpoint of the hobby...which is why this site exists.

I think everyone realizes it takes hard working people to run the trains and those people want/deserve time off. Maybe it's time to give the high horse a break for a bit...
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Seriously? Do you think saying "this stinks" is a dumb statement in this case? On a railroad photograpghy site?
I'm pretty sure I didn't say it was a dumb statement, just stating the fact that most railroaders would say it too if they saw that.

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Last time I checked, the majority of folks that visit this forum take photos of trains. And a lot of those folks have time off during Thanksgiving. So they have free time that could be spent trackside...but the trains aren't running. That stinks from the standpoint of the hobby...which is why this site exists.

I think everyone realizes it takes hard working people to run the trains and those people want/deserve time off. Maybe it's time to give the high horse a break for a bit...

So it stinks, what are you going to do then ? Look at RP all day or head out and find spots you can take shots for future photo references.
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Just be grateful we have time off to enjoy with our families...
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This stinks! To me it sounds like the railroads have no money-this sure sounds fishy!
The railroads do this for the three major late-year holidays every year. What's the big deal?

Also, nice mixed metaphor.
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Seriously? Do you think saying "this stinks" is a dumb statement in this case? On a railroad photograpghy site?

Last time I checked, the majority of folks that visit this forum take photos of trains. And a lot of those folks have time off during Thanksgiving. So they have free time that could be spent trackside...but the trains aren't running. That stinks from the standpoint of the hobby...which is why this site exists.

I think everyone realizes it takes hard working people to run the trains and those people want/deserve time off. Maybe it's time to give the high horse a break for a bit...
Thank you for saving me a post! I mean really guys, I didn't say it stinks for crews! Anyway, Thanksgiving day and maybe the weekend would be reasonable, but Wednesday and Thursday! Come on! Like I said, they're broke.
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Just be grateful we have time off to enjoy with our families...
Well it is THANKS giving! Anyway, all the more excuse for me parents to take me out on the Alco shortlines!
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Thank you for saving me a post! I mean really guys, I didn't say it stinks for crews! Anyway, Thanksgiving day and maybe the weekend would be reasonable, but Wednesday and Thursday! Come on! Like I said, they're broke.
If you clarified that in your original post then all of this would have been avoided. I'll apologize for my railroading behavior.
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Aside from the little squall me and TM 1 had, will they still run Amtrak trains?
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Oh the farmer and the cowman should be friends ...

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Territory folks should stick together...
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Seriously? Do you think saying "this stinks" is a dumb statement in this case? On a railroad photograpghy site?

Last time I checked, the majority of folks that visit this forum take photos of trains. And a lot of those folks have time off during Thanksgiving. So they have free time that could be spent trackside...but the trains aren't running. That stinks from the standpoint of the hobby...which is why this site exists.

I think everyone realizes it takes hard working people to run the trains and those people want/deserve time off. Maybe it's time to give the high horse a break for a bit...
Chris,
I don't think that Mike is on a "High horse". I just think that he is one of "Those people". Plus, I took the original post the same way that Mike did. So, I guess that I am riding animals as well........
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Once again! I am just saying this from the train buff's perspective. I have no problem accepting that because of some of our jobs people may have differences of opinion. I respect that. If anything I'm just saying what the news means to me. I had no intention of starting a war here, just wanted to inform. Let's just end it.
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OMG CSX is giving crews a couple days off and you critisize them. They should be more like the NS work 365 days a year!!
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Nov. 6, 2009 - Thanksgiving Holiday Operations

In observance of the Thanksgiving Holiday, Norfolk Southern will curtail (non-intermodal) freight operations beginning 7:00 A.M. on Thursday, November 26, 2009 and resume full operations at 7:00 A.M. on Friday, November 27. Interline gateways will remain open for traffic delivered from connecting carriers and passenger trains will continue to operate through the Holiday.

Customers with critical shipments, particularly unit trains, where customer operations will continue through the holiday, should contact their Customer Service or Marketing Representative regarding service requirements.

Where local service (set/pull) will be required through the holiday period or for questions regarding specific shipments, customers are encouraged to contact their Central Yard Operations or Customer Service representative.


Doesn't sound like 365 days to me.

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I think a lot of folks (myself included) thought the railroads operated in a fashion similar to most gas stations, convenience stores, restaurants, and powerplants - in that they are typically always operating. How many railroads close or minimize operations for TWO days?

As for "stinks", I thought it was obvious that the statement referred to the loss of opportunities for those of us lucky enough to have Friday off.

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[quote=troy12n;103589]OMG CSX is giving crews a couple days off and you critisize them. They should be more like the NS work 365 days a year!![/QUOTE

Was it really that hard to understand Chuck's point, the disappointment for himself?

BTW, Chuck, Amtrak's website shows trains running. No surprise, really. There is a special NEC schedule also.
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Chris,
I don't think that Mike is on a "High horse". I just think that he is one of "Those people". Plus, I took the original post the same way that Mike did. So, I guess that I am riding animals as well........
I believe all railway employees ride animals.


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Alright, lets move on, what's done is done.
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December 25, 1976... so freakin' cold you couldn't stand to be out for more than ten minutes at a time... but I also thought the railroads just ran and convinced my mom to drive me to Bergenfield NJ and drop me off at the Conrail River Line crossing by the library. Most miserable five hours I ever spent, waiting for nothing to come. It was then that I learned.
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Plus, I took the original post the same way that Mike did. So, I guess that I am riding animals as well........
I'm sure, but the point of my post/rant was to say, "Hey, put on your 'I'm-on-a-railroad-photography-forum-right-now' hat on before you blurt out in a demeaning way about railroad employees aren't there to entertain foamers."
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Thank you for saving me a post! I mean really guys, I didn't say it stinks for crews! Anyway, Thanksgiving day and maybe the weekend would be reasonable, but Wednesday and Thursday! Come on! Like I said, they're broke.
As long as I have been interested in railfanning railroads have greatly minimized operations during major holidays. If you pay attention to your own post you will see it is basically all day Thursday, Friday, and only a few hours of Saturday. You make it sound like a five day shut down. A quick check of NS and CSX show an average of about $10 Billion in sales and $26 Billion in assets, they're hardly going broke. Both clearly show steady stock growth in the last 6 months.
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will they still run Amtrak trains?
Just in case you didn't get the memo from what Chase posted, the answer is yes.
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OMG CSX is giving crews a couple days off and you critisize them. They should be more like the NS work 365 days a year!!
Man up and get your facts straight! This is a perfectly good example of someone that hasn't read all the posts before he jumps! Like I said, END IT!
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