Old 03-02-2014, 04:56 AM   #1
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So i submitted a bunch of cloudy/ rainy shots and the one with the most interesting clouds was rejected for cloudy/poor lighting. Any suggestions? Should i appeal?

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Old 03-02-2014, 06:32 AM   #2
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The clouds in the rejected shot are cool. Put more emphasis on them; crop some of the boring foreground out and take some off of the right. If you ever do this over again, put the road in the foreground instead of the bland field. I'm not personally a fan of the scrubby bushes in front of the train, but I don't think they would keep the shot off of RP.
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:55 AM   #3
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I wouldn't like that shot on a sunny day and I doubt the screener would either. Not worth the hassle IMO
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Yeah not a fan, it would honestly be more interesting as a landscape shot without the train. The train gets really lost in there, IMO 1 and 3 of the accepted are far more interesting for this site.
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Having the highway in that position just does not work for me.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:19 PM   #6
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Too much foreground. Foreground is too dark, it's hard to see the train. There isn't enough separation between the train and the base of the mountains, between the lighter fields and darker mountains: bad camera angle/poor composition.
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I love the clouds and the mountains but like Jake said, put the road in the foreground. Do you have a frame with the lead engine over the road?
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In the rejected one, it would have been a little better is you were closer since the train is so small compared to the scene, it sort of gets lost in it.

I like the road, but too bad it wasn't more in the middle of the frame with the train going across the crossing.

This image is a good candidate to tone map (single image HDR) do have the software to do this?

And I hope you have a RAW file for it.

I like the Pulga shot (tone mapping that would also work).

Pretty gutzy to drive the canyon in a storm - you know those rocks fall off the side of the canyon onto the road when it is raining?

You can get stuck up there from landslides onto Hwy 70.
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The angle kills it for me. But +1 because I'm biased towards crappy weather. You got some pretty awesome ones in, I would let it just be.

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One more expected cloudy rejection
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It's just plain flat. Nothing really pops out. You have much better sunny photos in the DB, I'd let this one go, also.
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Just goes to show the inconsistency, you did everything right for a cloudy day, shooting from above, and minimizing the amount of dull sky in the shot.
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Still looks cloudy and hazy, no matter what photos you are going to compare it to.
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Because he didnt go candyland/gotham city on it?
Halfway to candyland, if thats what the screeners wanted then they shouldve said bad contrast.
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Not understanding what you're trying to say here, but that looks horrid.
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Because he didnt go candyland/gotham city on it?
Halfway to candyland, if thats what the screeners wanted then they shouldve said bad contrast.
I really like this edit. Hope the OP goes with something like that and resubmits.
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Not understanding what you're trying to say here, but that looks horrid.
Horrid because I kept it close to reality instead of turning it into an illustration?
Curious how you feel this is any less flat?
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Ah yes, I see RP forums has kept its class.
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I prefer it to be this flat anyways.

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Not understanding what you're trying to say here, but that looks horrid.
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Looks rough, aka horrid. Pretty bad, etc. in my opinion though. I don't want to hurt anyones internet feelings. Back to trains.
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Obviously editing a web size image is going to look "rough"...
Still better than being desaturated half way to black and white.
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Obviously editing a web size image is going to look "rough"...
Still better than being desaturated half way to black and white.
Now that processing looks like one of Ben's shots.

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Horrid because I kept it close to reality instead of turning it into an illustration?
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That snow is awful.
Agreed. It's burning my eyes.
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