Old 07-27-2010, 03:43 AM   #1
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Hello, I was rejected for bad cropping the other day for a photo that was too tight on the train.. I am looking for some help, as I can't find a proper cropping for the full sized photo. If anyone can help me, please contact me. Posted Below is the rejected photo.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1082200148

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:51 AM   #2
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Might be a good idea to attach the full size photo but judging from the rejected photo, I'd say two things are obvious - first, the subject is possibly too centered not following the well respected rule of thirds. Second, as you mentioned already, it's very tight. You need to crop for a bit of breathing room.



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Old 07-27-2010, 03:53 AM   #3
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Might be a good idea to attach the full size photo but judging from the rejected photo, I'd say two things are obvious - first, the subject is possibly too centered not following the well respected rule of thirds. Second, as you mentioned already, it's very tight. You need to crop for a bit of breathing room.



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Mitch, I had attempted that. I was told upload failed. But thanks for your 2 cent's. Much Appreciated.
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Old 07-27-2010, 04:51 AM   #4
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I assume your file size was too large.

The system for uploading images direct from your computer to RP for the forums is relatively straight forward and easily done. Even I can do it!

In fact, let's do it again as a refresher:
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Select file - I think a file under 1,000 KB works well.
Yes... here's one.
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Viola!

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Old 07-27-2010, 04:58 AM   #5
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I'm sensing an ulterior motive.
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:06 AM   #6
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I'm sensing an ulterior motive.
OMG.... Would you look at that. Must have been subconscious.

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Old 07-27-2010, 11:30 AM   #7
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A bush as such is easily pulled from the ground. I do believe cropping is the least of your worries on that photo.

Cloudy day and common power come to mind as well
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:10 PM   #8
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Hello, I was rejected for bad cropping

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To tight and it needs a horizontal crop. To much dead space top bottom. It has sun on it so it's not cloudy as farmer says. Do you have other frames?
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I dont get the choice of vertical on this one. I would done a horizontal shot, and yes stompted that bush. However you are also shooting in midday high sun which is also killing your chances.
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I often encounter cropping rejections too. Here are recent examples:

This is my first attempt of this photo:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1097643361

My intentions are: (1) to show the destination (Union Station on top left); (2) Station name (North Hollywood on right); and (3) the overall high headroom of the station concourse.

The above have been stated as appeal reasons but as in most cases there are no chances that a rejection can be successfully appealed.

And then I tried another cropping as this:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=107230035

It is wonderful to have another bad cropping rejection again. This time I give up the station name on right but still want to keep the destination name on top left as well as the high headroom of station.

I am pretty sure the screeners do not want me to further crop the surrounding to make the train occupying most of the frame, as you see other photos in this website the smaller the trains the higher the hit rates =P

I just curious if there are any ways to make this photo accepted with good cropping.

Anyway I have got quite a number of accepted shots these days so it is not a big deal to have this rejected, frankly speaking ... =)
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However you are also shooting in midday high sun which is also killing your chances.
I see from EXIF the photo was taken at 16:13 ...
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Old 07-27-2010, 04:28 PM   #12
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the lighting isn't great, the colors are dull, and the vertical crop just doesn't work for this scene. I'd pass on trying this one again.

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A search in the database finds 4,577 shots of CSX GE AC4400CWs. You shot is poorly composed, should be horizontal, not vertical and is in less than ideal light. It doesn't scream out to the 4,578th shot.
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Joe pointed out your competition.

Though I'm surprised there are only that many (!)
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Just think what I have to compete against. There are 10,943 shots of NS D9-40CWs.
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