Old 03-30-2006, 03:18 PM   #1
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Anyone give suggestions? Not a cropping issue just Bad Angle. The train is stopped.
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Old 03-30-2006, 03:55 PM   #2
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It's not level and it is also way too high in the picture. That brings about too much dead space at the bottom and almost no space on top. It might not be salvageable since it was rejected for bad angle.
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I'm not trying to discourage you. Keep thinking "out of the box" on shots like these. Almost anything is better than another poorly composed wedgie.

However, there really isn't anything spectacular about this photo, it's a cool photo, yes, well lit, yes, just not very interesting to me.

It's just a nose on shot of a fairly dirty UP ACe. Had it been brand spankin' new, fresh out of the paintshop, maybe another story then. . . .

I suspect that's what the screener(s) is trying say by giving the "bad angle" rejection as opposed to maybe a "bad cropping" rejection.

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Image quality is blurry and grainy as well, which contribute to the strikes against it.
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It's not level and it is also way too high in the picture. That brings about too much dead space at the bottom and almost no space on top.
Rule of thirds applies to every type of photograph, and this photo follows the rule. The photo needs rotating, cropping, sharpeneing and maybe a little brightening. It is salvageable if you work on it a little more.
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Rule of thirds applies to every type of photograph, and this photo follows the rule. The photo needs rotating, cropping, sharpeneing and maybe a little brightening. It is salvageable if you work on it a little more.
Sure, but the screeners are not likely not going to accept something like this, thirds or not. Then again, they could prove me wrong and accept it. Who knows.
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Sure, but the screeners are not likely not going to accept something like this, thirds or not. Then again, they could prove me wrong and accept it. Who knows.
This shot probably not because of all the "problems" with it, but this type of shot has been accepted recently:
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. Like every type of shot it should be accepted if done properly or processed correctly, which the photo in question was not. Like everything about photography its one's own preference. I was simply pointing out this shouldn't get the boot for cropping (just for everything else).

This got "bad angle" at first.
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Accepted on appeal stating I was following the rule of thirds and I was including the "end of the line" where the rail ends into the dirt.
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Rule of thirds applies to every type of photograph...
Bologna. It's a technique, certainly not a hard and fast rule...
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True! Though he was a painter and not a photographer (that I'm aware) I don't think the rule of thirds meant much to Jackson Pollock!
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True! Though he was a painter and not a photographer (that I'm aware) I don't think the rule of thirds meant much to Jackson Pollock!
All right, he may not have conciously thought about the rule of thirds, but if you look at his work, it does have an incredible sense of balance and movement considering its rhapsodic nature.
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