Old 10-19-2010, 02:55 AM   #1
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I did not mess with the levels at all, I think it looks fine as is, but I can mess with it a little. I just wanted some other thoughts.

EDIT: I have tons of other frames with varying exposures I can use, but this was the only one with a streak through it from another train.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:08 AM   #2
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I'd have rejected it foreground clutter and distracting shadows.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:10 AM   #3
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Yeah, the shadows on the nose (even while dark) are a distraction...
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I agree... you got shadow skunked.
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:37 AM   #5
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way too many shadows on the nose not to mention that the composition really leaves something to be desired. The streak in the background does nothing for the shot either.

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I understand the composition is lacking, but considering it was the best I could do without trespassing, it is what it is. The shadows on the nose I thought were kind of cool actually. I was asking specifically about the exposure.

I am no expert on night stuff, this is one of the first ones I have even tried.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:04 PM   #7
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It is underexposed but the highlights are close to where they need to be. So you can't do a global adjustment. Composition blows. It was the best you could do without trespassing doesn't make it any better of a photo. RP doesn't care. At least you got to shoot the Fs for yourself.
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Troy, if you have a RAW file, maybe you can still do something with it. I tried a couple of different crops.

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The shadows on the front kill this shot, which is unfortunate.
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I understand the composition is lacking, but considering it was the best I could do without trespassing, it is what it is.
So? Why does that matter?
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So? Why does that matter?
My point is I was not asking for comments on the composition. I was asking about the exposure, I understand the pic may not get on due to that.

I was asking for future reference.
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Composition blows. It was the best you could do without trespassing doesn't make it any better of a photo.
I understand that. Was just stating a fact. But it kind of makes me wonder why they didnt just give it that rejection rather than the exposure thing. I really expected it to get a PEQ or some sort of composition reject right off the bat.

I have different crops I can try, but at the end of the day, my options were limited due to the location.

I also was lied to by NS staff I talked to on Monday and missed it leaving Bluefield. Lucklily I was able to haul ass and catch it in 2 places near Roanoke, but I was very rushed, literally pulled off the side of the road just in time to get the lens cap off, so I dont even want to look at them. I was even lied to this morning and given the run around until I finally found someone who actually told me what happened, making me waste a half hour before I left Bluefield trying to find out what was going on. Today was very frustrating...
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Chris Z....Great work with those edits. Wow! The vertical looks best, but both are great.
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Roger. I actually like the shadows now that they are much clearer.
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My point is I was not asking for comments on the composition. I was asking about the exposure, I understand the pic may not get on due to that.

I was asking for future reference.
While that may be true, you frequently reply giving your own opinions whether or not it has to do with with subject in question. You can only expect to get the same kind of reply when you yourself ask a specific question.

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This would have solved your problems.
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While that may be true, you frequently reply giving your own opinions whether or not it has to do with with subject in question. You can only expect to get the same kind of reply when you yourself ask a specific question.
fair enough
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How were you lied too?
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