Old 01-08-2013, 08:00 PM   #1
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Had this one rejected for Unlevel Horizon -

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now,to me,it's perfectly level - going by what you can see of the bridge in the lower left and the loco.It's on a curve and we're looking up at the train.
Worth an appeal,or am I missing something ?
I know there are some real qualified levelling experts on here so any advice would be more than welcome.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:32 PM   #2
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Wow, one of the screeners is having a bad day.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:50 PM   #3
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...but you don't have to be level to get a "screener's choice"

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(It's a really nice shot, though.)
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:56 PM   #4
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(It's a really nice shot, though.)
I didn't notice it was unlevel until you mentioned it. This is a case where if it had been dinged for being unlevel, someone likely would have gotten all over the screeners for being so nitpicky. But since it was accepted, now here is someone being nitpicky in that regard, too.

This is probably a case where the screener can't win for losing.
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I didn't notice it was unlevel until you mentioned it. This is a case where if it had been dinged for being unlevel, someone likely would have gotten all over the screeners for being so nitpicky. But since it was accepted, now here is someone being nitpicky in that regard, too.

This is probably a case where the screener can't win for losing.
A classic case of "it's not obvious until you see it"!

I'm sure the screener's first impression rules the day and they don't linger over these. There are elements in the shot that make it appear level - until you look a bit closer.

It did appear obvious to me, but I've had rejections for level that appeared "obvious" only after it was pointed out to me. That's just how it works!
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Apeal rejected. This is getting very annoying - despite my explaining that it is not unlevel,and the train is on an elevated curve,apparently it is still unlevel.
Well,obviously despite being totally wrong they are not going to change their minds.
So be it.
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You don't appeal an unlevel rejection.

Wait a few days, rotate it 0.20 degree clockwise and retry.
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You don't appeal an unlevel rejection.
I have. And won. Part of is wondering if they aren't thinking "Bad Angle" or something else to reject it for but just can't come up with anything. I've had a shot rejected that was looking up a hill at a train before. I think back then they called it "Bad Motive."
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This is probably a case where the screener can't win for losing.
Nope. Either stay consistent and reject all images that are unlevel by more then .01 degrees OR, loosen up and accept any and all images so long as they are within a whole whopping full pubic hairs to the wall degree.

Now personally, I have no problem with admins desire for absolute perfection. However, some of these unlevel rejections are to such a degree that they are obvious only to those elite members of the human race with a highly acute sense of balance attained through a genetically enhanced vestibular system of the inner ear. For those of us who do not benefit from such a finely tuned biology, I would think it would be in admin's best interest to specify clockwise or counterclockwise at the bare minimum. A reference point would be nice too.

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I have. And won.
I'll have to echo Joe's comment.

This was rejected for unlevel...and I appealed.

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