Old 10-12-2007, 04:08 PM   #1
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Default Yaaaayyy I got my first reject!

Well I got my first rejection with my new camera(Nikon D40) I kinda figured it would have been rejected cause all of the weeds in the way. Byt I didnt think it would have been rejected for poor lighting. But oh well at least I tried.

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Old 10-12-2007, 04:25 PM   #2
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Byt I didnt think it would have been rejected for poor lighting.
Sorry to be so blunt, maybe that is my mood today, but you didn't notice it was overcast?

Actually, you have fairly vivid color on the power - there is a reason why some recommend that outdoor portraiture be done in bright overcast - but you have a lot of ugly sky in the shot and the composition is standard. (Outdoor portraiture in overcast generally includes no sky at all.)

As for the weeds, well, they are brown, dry weeds. I personally don't mind a bit of foreground obstruction, especially where it is obviously intentional rather than a few weeds that jumped in while the shutter was being clicked.

But make it something interesting, corn, flowers, not brown weeds.
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Sorry to be so blunt, maybe that is my mood today, but you didn't notice it was overcast?

Actually, you have fairly vivid color on the power - there is a reason why some recommend that outdoor portraiture be done in bright overcast - but you have a lot of ugly sky in the shot and the composition is standard. (Outdoor portraiture in overcast generally includes no sky at all.)

As for the weeds, well, they are brown, dry weeds. I personally don't mind a bit of foreground obstruction, especially where it is obviously intentional rather than a few weeds that jumped in while the shutter was being clicked.

But make it something interesting, corn, flowers, not brown weeds.
Thanks. I do appreciate the help. I dont see where your being blunt your just tellin me how to do better. Thanks!
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:20 PM   #4
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Looks like you had to crawl thru the scrub to get that shot. Maybe someplace more open next time (I empathize, living as I do, in the land of weed-strewn ROWs).

As for the overcast skies, that's a problem even a D40 won't fix. Try again with better weather. Or worse weather (fog, blizzard, etc.). More interesting weather in any case.
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Looks like you had to crawl thru the scrub to get that shot. Maybe someplace more open next time (I empathize, living as I do, in the land of weed-strewn ROWs).

As for the overcast skies, that's a problem even a D40 won't fix. Try again with better weather. Or worse weather (fog, blizzard, etc.). More interesting weather in any case.
Thanks! I was standing in my backyard when I got the photo. I heard the train blow so I ran outside to get a photo. So I had no time to get to an open spot.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:57 PM   #6
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The way I commonly tell if a photo is too cloudy to submit is if I can't get it to look good in B&W after heavily saturating the color copy. Sometimes, photos in color appear quite cloudy, but a heavy saturation and then switch to B&W can change that.

Yours on the other hand, cannot be fixed like this. Way too cloudy of a day. IMO, if you're going to shoot on a cloudy day, choose a brighter one with a very thin cloud cover. Darker clouds (like those with rain) are a definite killer, while lighter clouds, like I mentioned above, sometimes can be worked around. Regardless of the lighting, the weeds in your shot are also a definite killer. Had you been up high, you may have been able to get around them, but down below, they are a big distraction. When shooting from this angle, you need to get to a spot that has absolutely no weeds next to the spot you want to shoot, since they stick up even higher when seen from down below.

This shot of mine is a fair enough example of a good spot for low shots:

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In cases where you're going to have weeds next to the track, it's best to be up high, like in a semi, as my dad proves here!

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Hello Carl,

I was up as high as I could have got I was standing on a picnic table. But I very much appreciate the help. I kinda figured it would have been rejected I was just making sure that the image didnt turn out blurry. I finally figured out how to resize my image with IRFANVIEW and it doesnt go blurry.
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:38 PM   #8
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Thanks! I was standing in my backyard when I got the photo. I heard the train blow so I ran outside to get a photo. So I had no time to get to an open spot.
Are you selling your house soon?
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:40 PM   #9
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If those weeds and the tree are in your back yard, may I suggest some "gardening" before you try another shot
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It's the weed's that kill it for me, not so much the cloudy sky's. Also it seems a little to "in your face" for me.
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Kudos on your first reject, may it be the first of many!

[Congratulations on getting started, I hope you get many shots submitted]
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If I lived that close to tracks that carried significant traffic I'd be clearing weeds for sure as they are ugly! I'm sure you'll have many more opportunities to get better shots - good luck!
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If I lived that close to tracks that carried significant traffic I'd be clearing weeds for sure as they are ugly! I'm sure you'll have many more opportunities to get better shots - good luck!
EMTRailfan- Nope dont plan on selling the house(At least I dont think so)


And the weeds will be cleared out this week. Im gonna go pull all of them out so I can stand there. And also I got some steam shots this weekend of Louisville & Nashville #152 and im hopin ill get at least one accepted. It was a clear day!
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:28 PM   #14
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If I had room, I'd look to build a treestand.

great backyard!


Got kids?
Build 'em a treehouse and give yourself the upstairs "observation deck".
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Sorry to be so blunt, maybe that is my mood today, but you didn't notice it was overcast?

Damn you and your bluntness! I suppose this picture is worthless now. And look, no ditchlights!!

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Damn you and your bluntness! I suppose this picture is worthless now. And look, no ditchlights!!


It's not a total disaster. At least there isn't a distracting vehicle on the overpass.
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It's not a total disaster. At least there isn't a distracting vehicle on the overpass.
What, like this?



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If I had room, I'd look to build a treestand.

great backyard!


Got kids?
Build 'em a treehouse and give yourself the upstairs "observation deck".
Well if I had kids then id be grounded for life. Im only 15...LOL
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Thanks! I was standing in my backyard when I got the photo. I heard the train blow so I ran outside to get a photo. So I had no time to get to an open spot.
Your backyard?? Hey, clear out all those weeds now, before you have to run out and shoot again.

Actually, 600 is not common power to me, I have never seen it (or at least no pic of it leading), almost every other 600 on the RF&P, but not the class unit.
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