Old 05-10-2013, 02:13 AM   #26
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Probably not enough foreground and too much sky, but ...

I know I can do that, but I wanted to include the house, flag, etc
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Too bad the Lehigh Valley wasn't on this train, but still, it is a fascinating shot of the Pennsy and one of her subsidiaries. Had you got the Val, you'd have had both.
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:56 AM   #28
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You know, it's really not that hard to get the house level...


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If Im shooting Wide leave a bunch of room to work it helps a ton.
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If Im shooting Wide leave a bunch of room to work it helps a ton.

Especially as if here, you need to pull the corners out to reduce the distortion.
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If Im shooting Wide leave a bunch of room to work it helps a ton.
Or just shoot less wide and not get the distortion to begin with (ending up with the same shot anyway).

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Ummm . . . I hate to say this, Jim, but the house looks like it's leaning backwards.

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Ummm . . . I hate to say this, Jim, but the house looks like it's leaning backwards.

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That's what happens when I do a quick job with a crappy jpg. In other words, I didn't care that it wasn't perfect.
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Ummm . . . I hate to say this, Jim, but the house looks like it's leaning backwards.

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That's what happens when I do a quick job with a crappy jpg. In other words, I didn't care that it wasn't perfect.
Aside from user error, also we are somewhat habituated by years of seeing uncorrected images to end up with the illusion that a corrected image is overcorrected. This also comes about from the stretch that perspective correction does, in the corners it can make things look weirdly wide.
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Aside from user error, also we are somewhat habituated by years of seeing uncorrected images to end up with the illusion that a corrected image is overcorrected. This also comes about from the stretch that perspective correction does, in the corners it can make things look weirdly wide.
Holy crap... that explains what happened to me!!!!! I've been stretched to correct perspective. It had nothing to do with pizza.
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Well, some versions of this shot are indeed better than others. But my overall take on the shot has changed little since the beginning.

The distortion was a significant problem as it affected so much of the shot, but even with that corrected / ameliorated it is still a too-busy looking shot for me. Just too many wires, angles, elements, features. Even the clouds are too-busy looking. And the trestle support structure has all those weird bends.

Not a terrible shot, but too many distractions from the train. As I look at the picture all I can think is "Why don't they fix that trestle support before it collapses?"
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Well, some versions of this shot are indeed better than others. But my overall take on the shot has changed little since the beginning.

The distortion was a significant problem as it affected so much of the shot, but even with that corrected / ameliorated it is still a too-busy looking shot for me. Just too many wires, angles, elements, features. Even the clouds are too-busy looking. And the trestle support structure has all those weird bends.

Not a terrible shot, but too many distractions from the train. As I look at the picture all I can think is "Why don't they fix that trestle support before it collapses?"
I think if the 2 wires really affect you that much you have issues.
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Just pointing out that my eye wanders all over this shot. The latest version is not bad.
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I think if the 2 wires really affect you that much you have issues.
You know you can knowingly clone out wires and still get a shot accepted, right?

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You know you can knowingly clone out wires and still get a shot accepted, right?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=434771&nseq=0
They ended up letting that crappy shot in?

They rejected a shot I did a top notch wire removal on once, after I put that much effort in and they shot it down, I am not going to waste my time with it anymore.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...74&key=6151773

I pulled down a guide, and the top of the rail is actually level left to right, the bottom of the bridge girders are actually not. Is this progress anyway?
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Looks fine to me, and having seen this one so many times now , I am getting used to the overall "look." Appeal.
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I'm with J, although like J too I've seen this thing so many times now, I'm not 100% certain myself.
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