Old 09-07-2013, 06:42 PM   #1
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Default Fundamental cropping questions in here - opinions wanted

Before I start, this would be one of those golden opportunities for the screeners / administrators to step out of the shadows and "help us help them", or at least share the reasoning behind their actions.

In regards to cropping and compositional theory and practice, and to some degree RP rejections, I have a couple questions.

These questions mostly relate to situations when shooting in mountainous terrain, or when you have something in the background which is not related at all to the subject of the photograph.

Examples:
1. Shooting at grade level with an oncoming train, you have a long telephoto and in the background is a mountain or ridge, but it's quite a bit above the train. Is it acceptable to crop it a little loose to show the top of the mountain line to give perspective to the shot? In this instance the train would be "low" in the frame.


2. Shooting a wide angle or medium "landscape" type shot, where you have the train kind of low in the shot, and have a lot of sky with some interesting cloud formations in the distance, but high in the frame. Normally one would say "too much sky", and I would agree if there was not something there, like a big thunderhead, the moon or sun rising, alien spacecraft, etc

I think sometimes the concept of "dead space" is misplaced or misapplied.

Thoughts?

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Old 09-07-2013, 06:44 PM   #2
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You are totally overthinking and overgeneralizing it, IMO. It is all a case by case basis in my view.
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You are totally overthinking and overgeneralizing it, IMO. It is all a case by case basis in my view.
Dead on here on both counts!
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:47 AM   #4
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Yup - case by case (or as it might appear - screener to screener).

Sometimes, if you can't make it work, it wasn't a shot worth taking.

Other times, you can go with a panorama or even a crop ratio that RP is not accepting.

And sometimes, it IS worth the less then perfect crop (catenary poles, for instance). That's when the case by case issue shows up - though, I've had identical images with different motive power where one is accepted and the other is not. THAT is where the frustration arrives.

































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As long as the rule of thirds is followed it will get in, Shoot that way if one wants it in? Or shoot it your way in the long run who cares if they like it as long as you do!
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