Old 08-25-2011, 06:55 PM   #1
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While I love the different/interesting POV, and while I am aware other countries' safety guidelines are WAY different than those here in the US, I am nonetheless surprised to see this shot in the database, especially with the train moving at full speed. I have seen pics be rejected for showing much less dangerous situations.

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Old 08-25-2011, 07:40 PM   #2
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Standing on the roof of a moving diesel is only dangerous in the US. OSHA does not have any authority in Chile, lol.

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I have to assume that it was submitted with a comment that the photographer had permission to be on top of the locomotive. If that's the case, where's the problem? Photographers in the past have shot from cab roofs, coal bunkers, and so on. I think it's a pretty cool shot!

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I think that's an awesome photo. Our safety-obsessed culture frowns upon stuff like this, but you're probably not more likely to get hurt doing that than driving yourself to work.

If trespassing was OK (as it was not that long ago), you can bet your a** that I'd do it.
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Why do those south american locomotives have such small radiators?
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If Stein had been an RP contributor and had submitted this, would there be surprise at its inclusion?


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Why do those south american locomotives have such small radiators?
It's the DB, no room over the motor like in the US. In the photo it's in the short nose!
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More people here should look at Steinheimers work and learn
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Speaking of Stein, I think Dario's shot is very Stein-like. It shows a desert scene done with a spare, unpretentious, unique composition.
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Indeed, many people who make such a big deal about trespassing dont seem to notice that most of the great railroad photographers at that time trespassed to get their shots because it wasnt "wrong" then.
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Indeed, many people who make such a big deal about trespassing dont seem to notice that most of the great railroad photographers at that time trespassed to get their shots because it wasnt "wrong" then.
While most of us can recall personal or anecdotal instances of when it was easier to be on railroad property, the truth is trespassing has ALWAYS been trespassing.

Link got written permission to do what he did on the N&W. Shaughnessy was an official photographer for the D&H. Stein forged strong relationships with officials of the railroad he was on so the crew knew what he was up to and would not be a harm to himself and the company.

Fans being harassed now due to post 9/11 national security concerns should know there was a virtual ban on all railroad photography during WWII.

I myself have been both welcomed to railroad property and chased. Both now and in the past.
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I myself have been both welcomed to railroad property and chased. Both now and in the past.

The railfan community in the 1970s was very good about communicating among each other as to what was accessible and what was not.

Colonie Shops on the D&H was famous for charging admission (I think it was a dollar a person).

Hagerstown, MD was famous for the fact that you could go into the Western Maryland office and sign a release that allowed you to walk anywhere.

Elizabethport on the CNJ was pretty much just open walking territory. I walked everywhere there and never once had anyone ask me what I was doing. (Croxton, the loco area at Meadows, and South Amboy were all similar).

On the other hand, most days, you didn't dare go into Oak Island on the Lehigh Valley. Although I never visited, the Milwaukee Road was infamous, even back east, for not allowing railfans on the property. I was told photography was illegal and was thrown out of Hoboken Terminal on the old Erie Lackwanna back in 1976.
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I remember having a RR cop with his gun on me for walking the RR tracks, one thing it was the RI and they hadn't run a train in 2 years and he was a IC cop that I knew as my dad worked for them. This was 82? Or about. Not a thing came out of it guess a train called in they got shot at and all I knew was I didn't see or hear a thing. So you never know what may show up down at the RR.
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If trespassing was OK (as it was not that long ago), you can bet your a** that I'd do it.
You'd jump up on top of a moving locomotive to get a similar photo if trespassing was ok?
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You'd jump up on top of a moving locomotive to get a similar photo if trespassing was ok?
Awww c'mon, you know what I meant
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Awww c'mon, you know what I meant
Heh heh...yeah.
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The railfan community in the 1970s was very good about communicating among each other as to what was accessible and what was not.
And this was done via letter, telegram, telegraph and smoke signals
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